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Valverde linked? Interesting. He's competent and he's managed a dressing room full of ego before, so that's two plusses OGS didn't bring. He's done short-term deals before.
 
EverTheOptimist said:
Amazing how easy it's to win trophies when you have THAT Barca team, then take over the richest German team coming off a treble who then add Gotze, Hummels and Lewandowski the summer Pep arrives from your nearest rivals Dortmund, then take over a state owned petro dollar team and spend £900 million, i think the chances of winning "lots" of trophies significantly rises don't you think Mate.

What i find shocking is how Pep never won a CL with that Bayern team in Three seasons, but at least Pep won 3 domestic doubles in that farmer's league to pad his stats, such a achievement winning Bundesliga's and domestic cups with Bayern right with all that fierce competition and winning the bundesliga in Febuary, i'm still baffled how City have flopped in the CL after he's spent over £900 million in 4 years.

Poch won't do anything at United, won't win a PL and or CL, the whole club is a laughable absolute mess from top to bottom, Glazer's more concerned with the share price, Fergie's still calling the shots and choosing the next manager's, recruitment is laughable and Woodward is staying, nothing has changed to even contemplate they will get back to past glories asap with that setup.

Spurs have an awful squad, only decent players in it are Kane and Son and one will be off soon, they have no money and Conte will be gone in 18 months time about the same time frame of Mourinho's stint.

The top 3 have nothing to worry about for the next 4-5 years from Spurs Arsenal or United.
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Bizarre how people don’t give him credit because it was THAT Barca team, yet conveniently forget that he built that Barca team. When he arrived Messi was a winger sometimes kept out of the team by Ludovic Giuly, Xavi wasn’t making the team and was talking to United, Busquets and Pedro weren’t in the first team. No David Villa either.

He had a lot of big name players that didn’t fit into what he wanted and had to move them on to play at the time what were relatively unproven young players some of them like Messi in completely new positions. He did all of this and turned them into probably the best club side the world has seen. You didn’t see that lot getting their centre back to launch long diagonals then tearing after it hoping for a turnover in the final third like some sort of rugby team.

Trying to claim those two CLs somehow aren’t his because he had Xavi Iniesta and Messi is pure kopite propaganda as he frankly built the careers of all three players.

He just wins far more than Klopp, does it quicker, does it more regularly, and plays far more attractive football whilst doing so. There’s no comparison between the two at all.

I’d put Klopp with Simeone, won a few pots playing an abrasive style of pragmatic football, struggled to retain it season on season, glosses over limitations by being a bit of a weirdo with a cult following. Of course they’re very good managers, and they’ll be in the history books of their respective clubs but when they talk about the managers that shaped the history of football, there’ll be chapters on Sacchi, Alex Ferguson, Guardiola, Zidane, maybe even Ancelotti but there won’t be one at the moment on Klopp.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Bizarre how people don’t give him credit because it was THAT Barca team, yet conveniently forget that he built that Barca team. When he arrived Messi was a winger sometimes kept out of the team by Ludovic Giuly, Xavi wasn’t making the team and was talking to United, Busquets and Pedro weren’t in the first team. No David Villa either.

He had a lot of big name players that didn’t fit into what he wanted and had to move them on to play at the time what were relatively unproven young players some of them like Messi in completely new positions. He did all of this and turned them into probably the best club side the world has seen. You didn’t see that lot getting their centre back to launch long diagonals then tearing after it hoping for a turnover in the final third like some sort of rugby team.

Trying to claim those two CLs somehow aren’t his because he had Xavi Iniesta and Messi is pure kopite propaganda as he frankly built the careers of all three players.

He just wins far more than Klopp, does it quicker, does it more regularly, and plays far more attractive football whilst doing so. There’s no comparison between the two at all.

I’d put Klopp with Simeone, won a few pots playing an abrasive style of pragmatic football, struggled to retain it season on season, glosses over limitations by being a bit of a weirdo with a cult following. Of course they’re very good managers, and they’ll be in the history books of their respective clubs but when they talk about the managers that shaped the history of football, there’ll be chapters on Sacchi, Alex Ferguson, Guardiola, Zidane, maybe even Ancelotti but there won’t be one at the moment on Klopp.
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These are the ones that dont give credit. RS fans will never give credit to anyone but their own. Guardiola is a top class manager, always willing to evolve and change. A very good point about Klopp, good at what he does but his style is always the same, doesnt change.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Bizarre how people don’t give him credit because it was THAT Barca team, yet conveniently forget that he built that Barca team. When he arrived Messi was a winger sometimes kept out of the team by Ludovic Giuly, Xavi wasn’t making the team and was talking to United, Busquets and Pedro weren’t in the first team. No David Villa either.

He had a lot of big name players that didn’t fit into what he wanted and had to move them on to play at the time what were relatively unproven young players some of them like Messi in completely new positions. He did all of this and turned them into probably the best club side the world has seen. You didn’t see that lot getting their centre back to launch long diagonals then tearing after it hoping for a turnover in the final third like some sort of rugby team.

Trying to claim those two CLs somehow aren’t his because he had Xavi Iniesta and Messi is pure kopite propaganda as he frankly built the careers of all three players.

He just wins far more than Klopp, does it quicker, does it more regularly, and plays far more attractive football whilst doing so. There’s no comparison between the two at all.

I’d put Klopp with Simeone, won a few pots playing an abrasive style of pragmatic football, struggled to retain it season on season, glosses over limitations by being a bit of a weirdo with a cult following. Of course they’re very good managers, and they’ll be in the history books of their respective clubs but when they talk about the managers that shaped the history of football, there’ll be chapters on Sacchi, Alex Ferguson, Guardiola, Zidane, maybe even Ancelotti but there won’t be one at the moment on Klopp.
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Messi was never kept out of the side by Guily hahahahaah, Guily was used by Rijkaard as a impact sub in the last 20 mins of games, Guily left after the CL win in 2006, think you are confusing that fact because Messi was injured for the 2006 final but was on the bench and Guily played in the final on the right wing coming off the bench, Messi always played right side of a 3, where he always played coming through the ranks at La Masia as 433 is their default formation throughout the club from the blueprint Cruyff set up.

Yeah Pep really built that Barca team, when he arrived he discovered Xavi, Puyol, Iniesta, Eto'o, Henry, Busquets, Pique, Toure, Valdes, even the great amazing Luis Enrique won a treble with that Barca team with Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Valdes, Puyol, Busquets, Pique.

13 years later Pep still hasnt won a CL after spending around £2 billion pounds since 2009, guess he should have spent that £2 billion on a cloning program to produce a Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Pique, Puyol, Eto'o Valdes, Busquets and they could just follow him to every club he goes to so he can win a CL.

I didn't read the rest of your post mate.
 
EverTheOptimist said:
Messi was never kept out of the side by Guily hahahahaah, Guily was used by Rijkaard as a impact sub in the last 20 mins of games, Guily left after the CL win in 2006, think you are confusing that fact because Messi was injured for the 2006 final but was on the bench and Guily played in the final on the right wing coming off the bench, Messi always played right side of a 3, where he always played coming through the ranks at La Masia as 433 is their default formation throughout the club from the blueprint Cruyff set up.

Yeah Pep really built that Barca team, when he arrived he discovered Xavi, Puyol, Iniesta, Eto'o, Henry, Busquets, Pique, Toure, Valdes, even the great amazing Luis Enrique won a treble with that Barca team with Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Valdes, Puyol, Busquets, Pique.

13 years later Pep still hasnt won a CL after spending around £2 billion pounds since 2009, guess he should have spent that £2 billion on a cloning program to produce a Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Pique, Puyol, Eto'o Valdes, Busquets and they could just follow him to every club he goes to so he can win a CL.

I didn't read the rest of your post mate.
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Kopites are Gobshites

That’s all
 

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