anxiouswarrior
Player Valuation: £8m
Scared then in what way exactlyScared then?
Not surprised.
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Scared then in what way exactlyScared then?
Not surprised.
Scared then in what way exactly
Yeah sure i remember relegation and went 26 years without the title until Fergie took us back to the top , listen we dont have a divine right to win anything as for fear whats that about , i think most sport is about trying your best and hoping to successful , as for being a Cup team yes we have done well but also won the title 20 times so its not too bad is it , city never congratulated us on wining anything so dont expect us fawn over them , they have their billions and they are doing wellYou tell me.
My opinion, as an observer, is United fans of a certain age, (I think you are in that group, remember relegation for example), know, deep down, that United are a cup team in essence. Nowt wrong with that, but after Fergie delivered the genius that he did, you fear that those days as occasional days in the sun will return.
Because of City mainly. And maybe others....
Yeah sure i remember relegation and went 26 years without the title until Fergie took us back to the top , listen we dont have a divine right to win anything as for fear whats that about , i think most sport is about trying your best and hoping to successful , as for being a Cup team yes we have done well but also won the title 20 times so its not too bad is it , city never congratulated us on wining anything so dont expect us fawn over them , they have their billions and they are doing well
Your success was built on Fergie and your global support.Yeah sure i remember relegation and went 26 years without the title until Fergie took us back to the top , listen we dont have a divine right to win anything as for fear whats that about , i think most sport is about trying your best and hoping to successful , as for being a Cup team yes we have done well but also won the title 20 times so its not too bad is it , city never congratulated us on wining anything so dont expect us fawn over them , they have their billions and they are doing well
i take your pointYour success was built on Fergie and your global support.
Citys success has been built on oil.
Why is 1 thing different from the other?
You need to get your facts straight before you start claiming we are whores , listen most United fans dont like our owners i doubt very many football fans do , most of them are only trying to make money for themselves
The global support was built on the back of the Munich air disaster and the way theyYour success was built on Fergie and your global support.
Citys success has been built on oil.
Why is 1 thing different from the other?
They will be there or thereabouts for the forseeable but they will never get back to the dominance of the Fegusone era. The sun has well andThis idea that Man U’s day in the sun might be over is a nonsense. There are two clubs (possibly a third in Arsenal) in England that will always be there or thereabouts regardless of their current plight. The name, pulling power, status in the game, and (in financial terms) self generating income, that doesn’t leave.
They’ve been p-ss poorly managed post Fergie, that’s it. Appointing Moyes was a shocking choice by Fergie, a wrecking ball who completely eviscerated all they had built up in record time, and a choice they have compounded by appointing over the hill managers since. They are currently operating without one. Had they hired Poch, or any competent manager who isn’t past it, they’d be in contention (yes they currently sit second, but this ain’t a normal season).
Agreed. You’ve spent nothing since Fergie left.Thing is people will blame OGS but the real villains are the parasites in charge of the club , they have not put a penny in but took millions out for their family etc , these vermin fed off Fergie for a few years 5 titles and the champions league but when he retired the fools were clueless , these people no nothing about football and most United fans despise them and wish they would sell up and leave forever
It's the natural order of things. When an empire goes into decline, eventually it falls away and becomes less and less relevant.They will be there or thereabouts for the forseeable but they will never get back to the dominance of the Fegusone era. The sun has well and
truly set on that empire. They are a poorly run club fom the very top. No real strategic vision except for how much money they can generate and
how much money they can pull out of the club. They are the new Arsenal. A top four finish to keep the CL money coming in and the occasional domestic trophy to keep the sponsors and armchairs satisfied and they are more than happy.
It's the natural order of things. When an empire goes into decline, eventually it falls away and becomes less and less relevant.
United under Ferguson had an unparalleled (in my memory in the English league) run at the top - they won 13 titles in around 26 years (I think). The amount of effort to keep that going in a competitive league is immense. To take that over and carry over the level of success is a hell of a tall order. I think they probably needed an insider groomed within the Ferguson regime to carry it on to even to have had a chance at that. Meulesteen and Quieroz all missed out and google tells me that Mike Phelan was the last assistant manager so he wasn't an option and by the end, I think Ferguson was probably wise to go with a well trusted and experienced pair of hands for immediate success rather than gamble on training a successor.
I think City under Pep had identified Arteta but he got his chance early at Arsenal and off he went. That's a problem as if you groom someone who looks like they could take over from an exceptional manager, they'll be in demand before they get their chance at the club who is developing them as that successor.
At a much lower level, we have Duncan Ferguson and Unsworth as potential coaches from within the organisation. I have no idea how they'd do as permanent appointments but at least they would perform caretaking duties. I think we would have to look outside to get a top manager. MInd you Everton haven't climbed to the top of the pile (yet!) to see if that's an issue.
Good post.It's the natural order of things. When an empire goes into decline, eventually it falls away and becomes less and less relevant.
United under Ferguson had an unparalleled (in my memory in the English league) run at the top - they won 13 titles in around 26 years (I think). The amount of effort to keep that going in a competitive league is immense. To take that over and carry over the level of success is a hell of a tall order. I think they probably needed an insider groomed within the Ferguson regime to carry it on to even to have had a chance at that. Meulesteen and Quieroz all missed out and google tells me that Mike Phelan was the last assistant manager so he wasn't an option and by the end, I think Ferguson was probably wise to go with a well trusted and experienced pair of hands for immediate success rather than gamble on training a successor.
I think City under Pep had identified Arteta but he got his chance early at Arsenal and off he went. That's a problem as if you groom someone who looks like they could take over from an exceptional manager, they'll be in demand before they get their chance at the club who is developing them as that successor.
At a much lower level, we have Duncan Ferguson and Unsworth as potential coaches from within the organisation. I have no idea how they'd do as permanent appointments but at least they would perform caretaking duties. I think we would have to look outside to get a top manager. MInd you Everton haven't climbed to the top of the pile (yet!) to see if that's an issue.