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2019/20 Marcel Brands

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Megatron said:
Then it should be on the guy in the dugout not getting his team doing basics
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He had Zoma and Gueye ripped from this team.

He's the same manager who had us playing last season.

Whats changed? The personnel.

And THAT'S why Brands is to blame.
 
davek said:
He had Zoma and Gueye ripped from this team.

He's the same manager who had us playing last season.

Whats changed? The personnel.

And THAT'S why Brands is to blame.
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With Zouma and Gueye we had the same issues at this point last season, same defensive lapses, same underperforming players getting unmerited starts, points to one guy and one guy only
 
Megatron said:
With Zouma and Gueye we had the same issues at this point last season, same defensive lapses, same underperforming players getting unmerited starts, points to one guy and one guy only
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Yeah, the start of the season and his time here. He sorted that out and then had his legs cut from under him with that Gueye sale and the failure to get a Zouma replacement.

The feller has been handed a poison chalice with Brands pathetic signings.
 
davek said:
Yeah, the start of the season and his time here. He sorted that out and then had his legs cut from under him with that Gueye sale and the failure to get a Zouma replacement.

The feller has been handed a poison chalice with Brands pathetic signings.
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He got them playing when there was nothing to play for Dave, stop making excuses and wake up to the fact that the manager should not be having this squad sitting 4th from bottom having lost to 2 of the promoted sides. A good manager doesn’t dwell on players not there, he adapts to work with those he has, you were too stubborn to admit Martinez’ faults and you’re shifting blame again when you know otherwise
 
Megatron said:
He got them playing when there was nothing to play for Dave, stop making excuses and wake up to the fact that the manager should not be having this squad sitting 4th from bottom having lost to 2 of the promoted sides. A good manager doesn’t dwell on players not there, he adapts to work with those he has, you were too stubborn to admit Martinez’ faults and you’re shifting blame again when you know otherwise
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This isn't a Martinez-redux for me. Not even close as managers.

I'd accept him going tomorrow, but that would be a poor decision which does not reflect where the TRUE fault lies. It's Brands.
 

davek said:
He had Zoma and Gueye ripped from this team.

He's the same manager who had us playing last season.

Whats changed? The personnel.

And THAT'S why Brands is to blame.
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....we couldn’t keep either. Zouma was on loan and Chelsea wouldn’t sell, Gueye wanted to go so he went.

They went, that isn’t the issue. Replacing them is the issue.

I think (I don’t know) Tomori was in the bag as a loan replacement for Zouma, but Chelsea losing David Luis at the death scuppered the move. The criticism can rightly be that there was no last minute contingency, but I’m happy we were not held to ransom by Manchester United who wanted us to sign deadwood on a permanent.

Gbamin is the Gueye replacement. Not a like for like replacement, but a player who might give us something different. He might be outstanding, he might be rubbish but he’s come in for Gueye and we don’t know yet. It’s not Brands fault he’s injured.

Biggest disappointment for me (with Brands) is Kean. I hoped he’d have an immediate impact. I’m happy with Brands, but I agree the signings in this window still have something to prove.

Regardless of personnel, Silva should still have the team organised. The fixtures have been kind, but we’re not defensively sound and we don’t offer a threat. A top manager still ticks points over, especially against ordinary opposition.
 
Bottom line is Silva should be doing better with the players he has, yes they aren't good enough for top 6 but they should be performing much better against the calibre of opposition we've faced in the league so far this season. Brands is not the guy that needs replacing at this moment in time, the manager is the primary reason for us being in 17th.
 
Eggs said:
....we couldn’t keep either. Zouma was on loan and Chelsea wouldn’t sell, Gueye wanted to go so he went.

They went, that isn’t the issue. Replacing them is the issue.

I think (I don’t know) Tomori was in the bag as a loan replacement for Zouma, but Chelsea losing David Luis at the death scuppered the move. The criticism can rightly be that there was no last minute contingency, but I’m happy we were not held to ransom by Manchester United who wanted us to sign a deadwood on a permanent.

Gbamin is the Gueye replacement. Not a like for like replacement, but a player whomight give us something different. He might be outstanding, he might be rubbish but he’s come in for Gueye and we don’t know yet. It’s not Brands fault he’s injured.

Biggest disappointment for me (with Brands) is Kean. I hoped he’d have an immediate impact. I’m happy with Brands, but I agree the signings in this window still have something to prove.
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Bottom line there is the clincher. They all have something to prove as well.

The manager: decent enough for me, no more than that, so I know what my view of him is. These players though that Brands brought in this summer = utter muck.
 
Brands is on thin ice at the moment too for me. If he can't replace Silva or get him to alter his playing style to something that gets points, he can enjoy his payoff with Moonhead in Holland.
 

davek said:
Bottom line there is the clincher. They all have something to prove as well.

The manager: decent enough for me, no more than that, so I know what my view of him is. These players though that Brands brought in this summer = utter muck.
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...regardless of personnel, though, he should have his team organised. First and foremost, we should be hard to beat, secondly we have to offer a threat. We do neither.

I’m not for sacking Silva, but we are tactically poor. The Schneiderlin/Delph axis offers nothing defensively, but more significantly there is no protection of the football, no continued possession when we win it. The manager continues with that combination. It beggars belief. Keeping the ball is so important, defending two static defenders is important, but Schneiderlin/Delph provide neither.

An innovative coach tries something different. We weren’t playing a Champions League team today.
 
Eggs said:
...regardless of personnel, though, he should have his team organised. First and foremost, we should be hard to beat, secondly we have to offer a threat. We do neither.

I’m not for sacking Silva, but we are tactically poor. The Schneiderlin/Delph axis offers nothing defensively, but more significantly there is no protection of the football, no continued possession when we win it. The manager continues with that combination. It beggars belief. Keeping the ball is so important, defending two static defenders is important, but Schneiderlin/Delph provide neither.

An innovative coach tries something different. We weren’t playing a Champions League team today.
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I posted this in another thread:

Last season:

Everton away win v Leicester
Everton draw away v Chelsea
Everton draw at home v Liverpool
Everton win at home v Chelsea
Everton win at home v Arsenal
Everton win at home v United
Everton draw away v Spurs


Talk all you want about tactics and method. For me, the players (and who bought them) are highest on the hierarchy of blame.
 

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