2019/20 Marcel Brands

[blueblue]

I am wondering how anybody on here has any clue about the role Brands has had in signing any player since his arrival or what role he played in bringing CA to the club or going forward how closely Brands will work with Ancelotti.... my guess is nobody has a clue.

My guess also is that being promoted to the board so quickly by Moshiri would hardly indicate somebody who was/is being edged out of the club.

I would guess that Ancelotti already knows some players he would like to sign if possible and Brands will try to facilitate that initially. In the longer term I feel it will be more of a collaborative effort.

 

[nsno-chris]

Carlo is the best Christmas present ever

Cheers Marcel, you beautiful person

 

[N.S.N.O.]

I am wondering how anybody on here has any clue about the role Brands has had in signing any player since his arrival or what role he played in bringing CA to the club or going forward how closely Brands will work with Ancelotti.... my guess is nobody has a clue.

My guess also is that being promoted to the board so quickly by Moshiri would hardly indicate somebody who was/is being edged out of the club.

I would guess that Ancelotti already knows some players he would like to sign if possible and Brands will try to facilitate that initially. In the longer term I feel it will be more of a collaborative effort.

No point appointing a legend like Ancelotti, and then not giving him freedom to select all our transfer targets.... Sign players that Ancelotti thinks will suit his style of football.... Brands had his go at selecting players, it wasn't exactly a success...

 

[Axlswhk]

Hertha Berlin was taken over by a rich man and they are expected to spend big, 200m spending spree.

time to work, Marcel. Find a new home for Tosun Schneiderlin and Keane.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

The belief that Ancelotti needs Brands' say-so on anything is farcical.

He's basically sparing Brands' blushes there.

A nice gesture by Carlo, thiugh: the feller is down and out, why roll him into the gutter? It achieves nothing. And everyone knows who the new governor is anyway.

Would that the governor that wrote this?

 

[davek]

Would that the governor that wrote this?

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Exactly: as he says there, HE initiates the transfer business by stating position needing strengthening AND putting names forward.

That's a different ball game to the

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Exactly: as he says there, HE initiates the transfer business by stating position needing strengthening AND putting names forward.

That's a different ball game to the

Ah right.

He follows it up by saying that the job is too big for one person, citing your mate as his example.

I think it's fair to say that hes open to the DOF model and that neither of us has anything beyond our own prejudices to go on. Let's see how it pans out.

 

[Neiler]

Exactly: as he says there, HE initiates the transfer business by stating position needing strengthening AND putting names forward.

That's a different ball game to the

I remember all the chatter about him setting the philosophey and style of play from the academy to the first team, where did that go.

Can you imagine him going to see Carlo and telling him how to play and set up.

He’s doing the club secretary bit as far as I can see.

The Silva process was very telling, if he was Brands man and he was determined to back him, then the decision was taken out of his hands. As for recruiting Carlo, looks like Moshiri all over. Brands maybe ring round agents, doing the secretary bit.

All things promised for the role haven’t happened, a philosophey from top to bottom regardless of coach, youth recruitment (despite the ban), finding untapped world class potential like Lozano, Iwobi Vs Lozano. Even Walsh signed some real prospects in Lookman and DCL for peanuts.

The above chipping away of any authority and the huge waste resources has this guy under real pressure.

 

[davek]

Ah right.

He follows it up by saying that the job is too big for one person, citing your mate as his example.

I think it's fair to say that hes open to the DOF model and that neither of us has anything beyond our own prejudices to go on. Let's see how it pans out.

All he's saying there is that he'll identify a player for a position and the DoF will decide whether the player suits the brand of football they wish to play...which is part and parcel of recruiting a manager anyway - that he'll carry out a vision of playing they have.

Look, here's proof of where real power lies now at Everton: Brands has stated in the past he wont do business in January. Here we are with January coming up and Ancelotti is telling everyone that we need a couple of players in January.

Doesn't that sort of prove that Brands is merely a rubber stamping device now rather than a supremo?

 

[Bluestar]

No point appointing a legend like Ancelotti, and then not giving him freedom to select all our transfer targets.... Sign players that Ancelotti thinks will suit his style of football.... Brands had his go at selecting players, it wasn't exactly a success...

I dont get this.
Brands signings have been quite good. We just have a bucket load of dross to get rid of from previous regimes that tied his hands financially. That is not going to change that quickly, whoever is identifying the targets.
I think he can be criticised for not getting a CB, but he did bring Zouma here in the first place. Whilst the jury is out on Kean, our new manager rates him and tried to sign him.
Carlos is going to get the best out of Sidebe, and Brands can’t be held responsible for the injuries to Gbamin and Gomez.
Anyway, Ancelotti always works with a DoF so Brands is going nowhere. Also, Brands has not been able to sign youngsters, an area he has been particularly successful at.

 

[davek]

I remember all the chatter about him setting the philosophey and style of play from the academy to the first team, where did that go.

Can you imagine him going to see Carlo and telling him how to play and set up.

He’s doing the club secretary bit as far as I can see.

The Silva process was very telling, if he was Brands man and he was determined to back him, then the decision was taken out of his hands. As for recruiting Carlo, looks like Moshiri all over. Brands maybe ring round agents, doing the secretary bit.

All things promised for the role hasn’t happened, a philosophey from top to bottom regardless of coach, youth recruitment (despite the ban), finding untapped world class potential like Lozano, Iwobi Vs Lozano.

The above chipping away of any authority and the huge waste resources has this guy under real pressure.

That's exactly what his role is now. You've cracked it there mate.

As you say, the sacking of Silva and hiring of Ancelotti was real politik: the owner will never surrender what he sees as THE most important decision to be made at this club. If we've learned anything so far about Moshiri, it's that.

I honestly dont see a future for Brands here at Everton.

 

[brieverton]

There is still a role for Brands, but it does seem secondary now.

He has to be judged on his record to date, and for whatever reason, the majority of his signings have been poor and failed to deliver to expectations.

If that hadn't been the case, then in all likelihood Silva would still be the manager and things would be moving along.

I don't believe the decision to sack Silva would have been taken in total isolation as to his struggles in the job.

It seems logical that if everything was considered in the round, the disappointment regarding the majority of the signings made must have been factored in.

To me, I think Moshiri is trying to solve two problems together 1) Addressing the obvious on-field performance and results and 2) Putting a stop to a disjointed and badly executed transfer strategy, and asking Ancelotti to take a lead in deciding who is targeted from here on.

 

[Neiler]

That's exactly what his role is now. You've cracked it there mate.

As you say, the sacking of Silva and hiring of Ancelotti was real politik: the owner will never surrender what he sees as THE most important decision to be made at this club. If we've learned anything so far about Moshiri, it's that.

I honestly dont see a future for Brands here at Everton.

It is that role isn’t it, as far as I can see. The go between.

We heard comments from Brands five days before Silva got the boot saying, he was his man and backed him totally, only for the authority to be taken out of his hands and undermined quite publicly. The other baffling thing was Silva had been under pressure for months, as well as last season. It took us week to make an appointment, where was this fella with his list he should have had prepared and an appointment made before the most condensed part of the season, heading into a window - it took weeks. We got a lucky break with Ancelotti, clearly we were unprepared though, just luck he got the sack at Napoli, or else we would waste more millions on another magical bean seller from some Chinese club.

The whole episode, has been very undermining, that’s off the back of a poor recruitment nightmare in the summer both buying and selling players of significant footballing worth to a huge impact on current results. Not a gem mined. A still unbalanced squad and still presiding over a club wide flip floppy philosophey, another season written off on our way to yet another reboot.

Urinating in the wind stuff.

 

[davek]

It is that role isn’t it, as far as I can see. The go between.

We heard comments from Brands five days before Silva got the boot saying, he was his man and backed him totally, only for the authority to be taken out of his hands and undermined quite publicly. The other baffling thing was Silva had been under pressure for months, as well as last season. It took us week to make an appointment, where was this fella with his list he should have had prepared and an appointment made before the most condensed part of the season, heading into a window - it took weeks. We got a lucky break with Ancelotti, clearly we were unprepared though, just luck he got the sack at Napoli, or else we would waste more millions on another magical bean seller from some Chinese club.

The whole episode, has been very undermining, that’s off the back of a poor recruitment nightmare in the summer both buying and selling players of significant footballing worth to a huge impact on current results. Not a gem mined. A still unbalanced squad and still presiding over a club wide flip floppy philosophey, another season written off on our way to yet another reboot.

Urinating in the wind stuff.

I completely agree, Brands inherited a mess and hasn't shifted the dial.

And the Silva succession is there for all to see: he was out of the loop on his sacking (not even at FF - they waited for him to leave for the evening before doing it), then the owner comes in with his white rabbit trick which took the place of a methodical search which should have been conducterd weeks if not months ago.

Brands is just a suit with not much inside it.

 

[zebedee]

I completely agree, Brands inherited a mess and hasn't shifted the dial.

And the Silva succession is there for all to see: he was out of the loop on his sacking (not even at FF - they waited for him to leave for the evening before doing it), then the owner comes in with his white rabbit trick which took the place of a methodical search which should have been conducterd weeks if not months ago.

Brands is just a suit with not much inside it.

Silva was a puppet mate. He was to coach and brands to manage the team (a true DOF role).

It's back fired on us in the short term. I'm inclined to agree with some of the above.

But...

Trying to get rid of the drosh we've purchased was never was going to be easy.

I'm still not convinced this DOF role fits the premier League.