2020/21 Marcel Brands

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It’s pretty comical what’s going on.

going into an important fixture against ale house Newcastle and we don’t use a full allocation of subs and have 2 keepers on bench!? What the...

this crabtastic slugs of war midfield needs improving. Siggy, gomes and Davies - that’s soooo bad.
 

I agree, but maybe expected more of Gordon at the start of the season or a deal fell through in the summer. There’s numerous things that we’ll never be made aware of

We both know that both Ancelotti and Brands need to sign off on players coming and going, so the exodus will have the managers approval.

The wage bill needs to be cut, quickly and drastically, we may bring one in one in the next day or this could be preplanning for the summer.

The only thing I know is that I’m confident, more than I have been in a long time. There seems to be an agreed approach to how we’re moving forward, we may not agree but that’s football I suppose

I have no problem with there being a plan - in fact, it's clearly what we need.

My issue is that sometimes, you have to be more flexible. They showed this with Godfrey, to an extent, though as I mentioned earlier, while I am happy with that signing, it didn't really fit anything like the profile of the previous CB we were after (Gabriel, a left-footed ball player with good aerial dominance). Godfrey is alright on the ball but his aerial play was signalled out as a weak link, and he's right footed. His main attributes are his strength and power and pace, and obviously he's developing well. But, that example kind of confuses me - do you see my point?

Back to having a plan. I just feel that this season immediately shaped out to clearly be something like we haven't seen in a long, long while - if ever in the PL (even the 15-16 season wasn't as open as this, Leicester had it all but wrapped up by Feb).

That last game before the first international break, we won our fourth straight league match to go to the top of the table and the champions got thrashed 7-2 by Villa, with two of their best players out through COVID. It kind of sums it up. So much opportunity but a lot of risk.

We didn't mitigate that risk. Didn't seem to realise - or if they did, they didn't act on it - just quite what the opportunity was here. Fine if there's a plan of say, 3 seasons to qualify for CL, but you know what makes achieving that plan easier? Making the most of a massive opportunity which presents itself and turing that 3 year plan into a 2 year one, or a 2 year one into a one-year plan. Trust me, I understand the caveats and our previous crap spending hindering us at just the wrong time. I really do. But there are other ways around it, there are other ways to strike deals.

Use the loan market from abroad, tap into Ligue 1 which is struggling badly financially right now. That league, for all the 'farmers league' shouts, is the closest in terms of physicality to the Premier League, and it's why attacking players from that league generally do okay here.

I just find it so frustrating and to me it's all encapsulated in that game and by that bench today.

And the issue with a 2 or 3 year plan is that you are always at risk of it all falling apart if, say, Man City reckon that goal poacher DCL would probably bag 30 goals for them next season, or Richarlison - even if he's been in bad form - draws the eye of a PSG. And while that could work in terms of rebuilding, you're also risking taking a step back.

Apologies for the long post at this time of night, understandably you're probably best to leave it until morning! :D
 
This man is clueless, simply doesn't have an eye for the deal or for a player. The sooner we rid ourselves of him the better. How is he doing no business when it's clear our squad needs additions? Our depth is comically bad at this point. Any injury is a crisis. We still don't have a playmaker in midfield which has led to Rodriguez coming deep to get involved. Just get this clown out.
 
The reason the squad has been naff for so long is precisely because we’ve been buying players for specific managers. It’s the complete wrong way to grow a football club.
You have to buy players according to the coaches system/tactics. Not doing so is a sure fire way to fail. You can't just sign a bunch of guys who don't fit your coaches plans. What are they going to add then? The trick is hiring the right coach in the first place. We've finally done that so now the plan is to get him the right players. Brands isn't the man to do all of that. Simply not good enough.
 
Do you mean if Brands stays? Or if Brnds leaves and we just don't operate with a DOF?

I mean my heard would love someone a bit more radical than Brands, such as Rangnick. I think Brands is quite cautious/conservative, and I think we need to push the envelope more.

My head says, with the manager we have, the owner we hve and to a degree the fans expectations (and outlook on selling key players) there's every chance Ralf Rangnick crashes and burns long before his methods have a chance to bear fruit.

What is your feeling on why a new contract has not been signed by Brands?

Same set up = Ancelotti and Brands.

Erm not sure, maybe Brands wants out, maybe Farhad is going loves spending money firing people and wants someone else. If another DoF comes in this Summer we’re back to square one.
 

It's all relative to the era, Trevor Francis transfer was considered outrageous as was Shearer. Managers have successfully built great sides with out the need for this outside help

Wake up mate it’s 2021. Football doesn’t work how it does on those black and white VHS tapes anymore.
 
You have to buy players according to the coaches system/tactics. Not doing so is a sure fire way to fail. You can't just sign a bunch of guys who don't fit your coaches plans. What are they going to add then? The trick is hiring the right coach in the first place. We've finally done that so now the plan is to get him the right players. Brands isn't the man to do all of that. Simply not good enough.

That’s not how a DoF model works.
 
Yes, but that is quite literally their job - to find quality players and bring them in.

It's all about opportunity. Until Everton start taking opportunities, then we'll just stay stagnant. Doesn't matter who's in charge.

That was summed up at the start of October. Top of the league, seven wins from seven in all comps, into the EFL Cup quarter-finals.

What do we do? Let two attackers go - an area we needed to strengthen - and didn't bring anybody in.

Took a gamble and what happens the next game? Richarlison gets suspended and misses a month and we lose three matches on the bounce.

It doesn't have to be massive spend. Especially not in January. Villa have just bought a very decent player for £14m. There's loans to be had, from Europe especially.

The wage bill is a huge hurdle I agree, but these outgoings will help with that.

Back to taking opportunities, or not doing so, it then runs all the way through the club, and can be summed up and bottled up and sold as 'Everton that' as today's game being the perfect example.

I agree to a point but you don't know the extent of the wages situation, especially with James coming in. That would've added more complexity to it

It's true, we should've definitely replaced with at least 1 attacker even just for cover. But I do think letting Walcott go was purely down to wages and a team wanted him, so we let him go.

Kean...wouldn't be surprised if he just wanted out.

And as for the Villa buying a "decent" player...isn't that the problem? Spending £20mill or even £50mill on "decent" still leaves you with average stuck on the books.

I do expect that with Bernard and Walcott going, that's £220k a week off the books, Bolasie (£75k) and Tosun (£60k) that's another £135k a week, we should see incomings.

Whether Jan or not we'll see
 
That’s not how a DoF model works.

It does and it doesn't. They bring in a manager to fit a system and buy players for it. It's why Brands really wanted to keep Silva.

He'll do the same with Carlo but I'm sure he'll have more of a say on the type of targets.
 
This man is clueless, simply doesn't have an eye for the deal or for a player. The sooner we rid ourselves of him the better. How is he doing no business when it's clear our squad needs additions? Our depth is comically bad at this point. Any injury is a crisis. We still don't have a playmaker in midfield which has led to Rodriguez coming deep to get involved. Just get this clown out.
Money may be a factor.
 

It does and it doesn't. They bring in a manager to fit a system and buy players for it. It's why Brands really wanted to keep Silva.

He'll do the same with Carlo but I'm sure he'll have more of a say on the type of targets.

I’m not sure I believe that part.
 
I agree to a point but you don't know the extent of the wages situation, especially with James coming in. That would've added more complexity to it

It's true, we should've definitely replaced with at least 1 attacker even just for cover. But I do think letting Walcott go was purely down to wages and a team wanted him, so we let him go.

Kean...wouldn't be surprised if he just wanted out.

And as for the Villa buying a "decent" player...isn't that the problem? Spending £20mill or even £50mill on "decent" still leaves you with average stuck on the books.

I do expect that with Bernard and Walcott going, that's £220k a week off the books, Bolasie (£75k) and Tosun (£60k) that's another £135k a week, we should see incomings.

Whether Jan or not we'll see
All of Walcotts will have gone on James (and then some), just hope the rest doesn’t get splonked on Khedira..... unless Kenny goes too for a few mill, I can’t see anything other than loans coming in tbh..... not totally up to speed on decent players who aren’t getting a game across Europe, but there’s no one springing to mind.... least not I the positions we need
 
I’m not sure I believe that part.

Various reports stated that Mosh and Brands went down to Finch farm the day Silva was sacked. Were there for hours talking to players and staff trying to find a reason to keep him on manager. Couldn't get one. Silva didn't put much of a fight either so they fired him.

They dragged out his sacking longer than expected as they wanted to literally give him every chance he could.
 
Not 100% sure where I stand on him really, as I think he’s had an unenviable task and been shafted by the previous regime. Suppose the proof then rests in his own signings. Pointless arguing about whether it’s a “Brands signing” or not.

Hits: Digne, Richarlison, Mina, Zouma (loan), Branthwaite, Allan, Rodriguez, Doucoure, Godfrey.

Meh: Iwobi, Sidibe (loan), Nkounkou, Olsen (loan)

Misses: Gomes, Bernard, Virginia, Lossl, Delph, Gbamin, Kean.

A few of the misses can be rationalised, but it’s still far from a flawless record. I’d call it decent, with the window last summer being his first great one for us. Compared to Walsh’s record though, it’s positively stellar and he’s been battling against that absolute tit’s mistakes for the past 2 and a bit years whilst trying to improve the squad. I’d be inclined to keep him for another 2 years on balance.
 

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