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2020/21 Marcel Brands

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I appreciate not everything can be solved in one window or even two. And we did some good work last summer. But our squad is badly imbalanced no right back who can get up and down the pitch and has the pace(Coleman is coming to the end of his career he is a squad player). No genuine right winger who has pace and creativity. James is a number ten who can play off the right, Iwobi doesn't produce. And finally the midfield it lacks physicality, guile and pace. Allan and Doucoure helped but having one player of Doucuore's type in a squad is so poor. You should have at least three players in the midfield who can get around the pitch. I don't even count Gbamin at this stage. Aside from James, Brands has bought some creative players who aren't suited to this league Gomes too slow and doesn't run or affect games enough, Iwobi flatters to deceive, Bernard too inconsistent and not physically built for this league.
 
billyblue80 said:
I appreciate not everything can be solved in one window or even two. But our squad is badly imbalanced no right back who can get up and down the pitch and has the pace(Coleman is coming to the end of his career he is a squad player). No genuine right winger who has pace and creativity. James is a number ten who can play off the right, Iwobi doesn't produce. And finally the midfield it lacks physicality, guile and pace. Allan and Doucoure helped but having one player of Docuore's type in a squad is so poor. You should have at least three players in the midfield who can get around the pitch. I don't even count Gbamin at this stage.
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But we dont have 1 player of Doucs type.

We have 5.

Doucs, Gmblammo, Davies, Allan and Delph.

Yeah, nobody counts Delph or Gmblammo, cos it doesn't fit their agenda or they constantly injured, but they still exist in the squad, as does Besic. :hayee:
 
MikelsGoat said:
But we dont have 1 player of Doucs type.

We have 5.

Doucs, Gmblammo, Davies, Allan and Delph.

Yeah, nobody counts Delph or Gmblammo, cos it doesn't fit their agenda or they constantly injured, but they still exist in the squad, as does Besic. :hayee:
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You see I don't mean the same position I mean the same kind of attributes Doucoure can get up and down the pitch has pace and physicality. Allan can do a bit of this but hasn't the pace, Davies can do it a bit too but both are DMs firstly. As for the other two they are consistently injured so I can't even judge Delph for sure doesn't offer what Doucoure does. Gbamin can but at this stage he has been out for two seasons we should have been planning regardless of his availability. As for Besic again not the same type and is deemed surplus.
 
billyblue80 said:
You see I don't mean the same position I mean the same kind of attributes Doucoure can get up and down the pitch has pace and physicality. Allan can do a bit of this but hasn't the pace, Davies can do it a bit too but both are DMs firstly. As for the other two they are consistently injured so I can't even judge Delph for sure doesn't offer what Doucoure does. Gbamin can but at this stage he has been out for two seasons we should have been planning regardless of his availability. As for Besic again not to the same type.
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Personally I consider them all the same type.

None of them are creative, all of their games are based on running around.

And in fairness, I really have no idea what Gmblammo is.
 
MikelsGoat said:
Personally I consider them all the same type.

None of them are creative, all of their games are based on running around.

And in fairness, I really have no idea what Gmblammo is.
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Not one of the players you listed has the same attributes of Doucuoure. Gbamin maybe but you can't base a strategy on a long term injured player. My point remains if you are relying on one player like we did with Gana and now Doucoure, and if that player is out you will suffer. Same with relying on James for creativity. We need more options and similar attributes to replace. I am not expecting two James/Doucoure quality level players but you need similar attributes(pace physicality box to box) and (creativity) that they bring. That's what we need to address in the next few years.
 

The one thing I'll say in his defence is that we don't know what sort of brief he's working to.

I was expecting to see cheaper, more obscure players coming in from abroad when he arrived, but maybe that's not what Moshiri wants.
 
billyblue80 said:
Not one of the players you listed has the same attributes of Doucuoure. Gbamin maybe but you can't base a strategy on a long term injured player. My point remains if you are relying on one player like we did with Gana and now Doucoure, and if that player is out you will suffer. Same with relying on James for creativity. We need more options and similar attributes to replace. I am not expecting two James/Doucoure quality level players but you need similar attributes(pace physicality box to box) and (creativity) that they bring. That's what we need to address in the next few years.
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My point is that we have the players, they just arent at the same level as Doucs.

We lack creativity big time and players that move the ball quickly.

This I agree with.
 
MikelsGoat said:
Personally I consider them all the same type.

None of them are creative, all of their games are based on running around.

And in fairness, I really have no idea what Gmblammo is.
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He is basically a steady eddie type, he will get about make a few tackles, make a few passes, nothing spectacular, he will be consistent with it though but that's pre injury. I think some on here have him down as some sort of world beater and that just isn't the case tbh.
 

Walter Ego said:
So if you ask Carlo what right back he’d like for x amount you don’t think he could come up with a name because he’s always worked with a dof? Do me a favour. Managers picking players has worked in English football for 99% of its history and it seemed to work. You still have a scouting system to assist the manager.
A manager lives and dies by the clubs signings. Carlo is being hampered if Brands is picking players too. If his track record was good we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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I reckon this happens anyway.

The number of people on here that think in such a blinkered way, is baffling.

The most likely scenario is there is a recruitment 'team', the manager, head scouts, Directors and more will be in this 'team'. It is not only Brands who goes, we will have him. All in the team, will have some input. I don't know this for certain, maybe everybody speaking facts knows for certain that Brands goes out, buys who he wants and then comes back with surprises for everybody.

'Hey Carlo, I got you this guy from Outer Mongolia, I hope you like him'

It has actually been proven that Ancelotti okayed Doucoure but only after being told about him and being persuaded. Not all transfers will work in the same way, it may be Carlo telling the team that he wants to prioritise 'x' position. Brands will probably organise the scouts to find them, or they will look on the database they already have. It may an employed scout, agent, freelance scout telling somebody who tells Brands about the availability of players, he then talks to Carlo or the youth team managers to get their opinion, etc.

Long story short, if he has been solely responsible for all bad signings then yes, get him out. It would not bother me one bit, just as him staying wouldn't bother me one bit. We as a club are improving however that may be and only people within the club know 100% the score.

It is a good system as it is more or less the same system as any manager (without a DoF) use, as there will be a scouting system, it should just takes away some of the more labour intensive stuff from the manager. I suppose it will depend on how a manager wants to use that system.
 

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