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2020/21 Marcel Brands

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This overhyped divvy needs to take a good look at what recruitment the likes of Leicester and Moist at WHU is doing instead of spending £250 million to go from 8th to 8th.

Get this fella out of my club
We did look at what Leicester were doing; sadly, we signed their main scout as our Director of Football who ploughed millions on rubbish in the same place.

West Ham are playing well at the moment - more than happy to admit it - but in the long-term how many of their players are the calibre we want?

There's a big difference between praising a purple patch and pining over it. Spurs were doing boss at the start of the year with José reinvented and now look.

Will West Ham and Moyes be in the same position next year? Most objective fans may think it's more unlikely than likely. It's sensible to look beyond your nose.
 
People refer to the last summer window as an absolute success. Yes we made several positive acquisitions, but even with James and Allan, being exceptional on the pitch their availability has problematic. Also it's not just the players we signed that should be considered. Brands left significant issues in our squad depth that later affected us extensively when we became plagued by injuries or even when we required a different strategic approach.
 
People refer to the last summer window as an absolute success. Yes we made several positive acquisitions, but even with James and Allan, being exceptional on the pitch their availability has problematic. Also it's not just the players we signed that should be considered. Brands left significant issues in our squad depth that later affected us extensively when we became plagued by injuries or even when we required a different strategic approach.
We signed Godfrey, Allan, James, Doucouré and Nkounkou, while Olsen was brought in on loan. How many of those were below par signings?

Yes injuries have been an issue, however I think we can't overlook the intensity of this season in terms of short pre-season and times between games.

Are we the only team who has suffered an injury crisis this year? While that's not negating all their periods of injury, the point is that there is fair mitigation.

Now, to the best of my knowledge, nobody is saying that the summer was perfect and yes there's still issues, but alternatively it's not the failure some will say.

Mircales don't occur over night! Yet, we're going in the right direction and hopefully this summer will improve us further and at a rate that we require.
 

You read Roy Keanes biog? His description of how he first joined Forest, then got his debut, (away, at Liverpool), is amazing. Top manager, who trusts his scouts/recruiting team to get him what HE wants for the first team.

Clough "Can the Irishman take it?" Scout bloke. "Reckon so Brian".

"Irishman, you are playing, the #7 is yours" Thats in the away dressing room at Anfield, and I have paraphrased a tad.
Story goes that on the Friday Keane looked at the squad for the second team and discovered his name was not on it
Then he looked at the squad got the third team and his name was not on it
Keane stormed into cloughs office demanding to know why he want playing
Clough just said
You are in the squad for the first team tomorrow
As Keane left Clough said
Oh and get a haircut
 
People refer to the last summer window as an absolute success. Yes we made several positive acquisitions, but even with James and Allan, being exceptional on the pitch their availability has problematic. Also it's not just the players we signed that should be considered. Brands left significant issues in our squad depth that later affected us extensively when we became plagued by injuries or even when we required a different strategic approach.

There is no way James and Allan were Brands signings. The last time Doucoure was out for any length of time was about 8 years ago. Pure Everton luck, we cant have good things. We could sign effing Superman and ge'd get injured
 
Depends which transfer you put down to which person. I put James and Allan to Carlo, the rest to Brands. Together they're a good team though for me and I'd like to see another Summer window with them together. We're still short in areas but I don't think we have as much money as everyone believes atm (not Esk levels just think stadium and COVID are hurting).
Moshiri and Usmanov increased their wealth during the pandemic
 
My concern is that Brands doesn't understand English football and the physical strengths required. He prefers technical players over players who are athletic and aggressive.

The fact he hasn't signed players from the championship once is something I find very strange. (Godfrey doesn't really count)
Gbamin looks like a big unit and he’s fast as well ( or at least he was pre injury )
 
Do you think Brands does as well with the last window without Carlo here?

Do you think he would be able to bring in two players at the level of James and Allan if Carlo wasn't a factor?

I'm not so sure.

Does it matter though? If they do well as a team then who cares how they will do individually or in another team.

It would be like saying, do you think Cole would have scored as many goals without Yorke. In the end it is 100% irrelevant as they work as a team and are generally judged as a team/partnership.

If Carlo was not here we may have lucked out and got a young manager with the X Factor or got a Moyes type who would have come in and created a solid team structure and got some more Cahill's, Pienaar's, etc.
 

We did look at what Leicester were doing; sadly, we signed their main scout as our Director of Football who ploughed millions on rubbish in the same place.

West Ham are playing well at the moment - more than happy to admit it - but in the long-term how many of their players are the calibre we want?

There's a big difference between praising a purple patch and pining over it. Spurs were doing boss at the start of the year with José reinvented and now look.

Will West Ham and Moyes be in the same position next year? Most objective fans may think it's more unlikely than likely. It's sensible to look beyond your nose.

Same with Wolves last year. Could even throw Sheffield United in that mix too. One season does not indicate where a club is heading. Leicester you can say have as they've been there or thereabouts for a good few now.
 
I'd argue that last summers signings have been a success, on top of the disaster the summer before.

My biggest issue with Brands though is that there doesn't appear to be any evidence of decent global scouting where we are picking up one or two players cheaper, but ready to go into the side. You won't pack a starting XI with those type of signings, but I think it isn't unreasonable to aim for one a year. I'm talking about players in the £15m bracket or cheaper, particularly from continental Europe.

The signings profiles are generally too safe for my liking, and not enough to give us an x factor to progress. I exclude James obviously, but in bigger terms we won't have the scope to repeat the same type of business this summer, as last. We need younger players. The injury record of a player like Allan at his age concerns me greatly and I don't think we have the freedom to do more business like that.

Brands likes to shop in established markets - rejects from Barcelona, Manchester City, Juventus, Arsenal etc. We have too many of those type of players looking for a 2nd chance. Where are the signings where people say "Where did they get him from, and for that fee" Surely, this is what Brands' job is about at its very essence. You don't need sophisticated scouting models to recognise that Andre Gomes was a busted flush at Barcelona, if he was ever anything else from the day he signed there, for example. That doesn't mean he had to fail per se, of course not, but its an example of how Brands seems to approach his task here. It's easier to pick up the phone to a contact at these clubs, and do their bidding for them.

We have to buy smart and buy young, and either keep such players as the core of a squad over the next 5-8 years, or sell them on at large profit and reinvest.

I know people will say we have quite a few players that would generate a tidy fee on if we sold them, primarily DCL and Richarlison, but Brands can't take the credit for them, apart from Godfrey.

The sum total of his work is very disappointing in my opinion, with little to no evidence that he has grasped the model that we need to follow, let alone implement it.
 
People refer to the last summer window as an absolute success. Yes we made several positive acquisitions, but even with James and Allan, being exceptional on the pitch their availability has problematic. Also it's not just the players we signed that should be considered. Brands left significant issues in our squad depth that later affected us extensively when we became plagued by injuries or even when we required a different strategic approach.
The gaps are caused by financial limitations. The deadweight in the squad has a real impact on our ability in the transfer market. It can’t be ignored.
 
The gaps are caused by financial limitations. The deadweight in the squad has a real impact on our ability in the transfer market. It can’t be ignored.
Delph .Bolasie ,Besic ,Walcott Tosun ,Kenny , Bernard all draining wages
ADD a few more who should not be in the squad of a top 4 chasing side ,Iwobi ,Gomes Davies Siggy and the size of the task becomes apparent
 
There is no way James and Allan were Brands signings. The last time Doucoure was out for any length of time was about 8 years ago. Pure Everton luck, we cant have good things. We could sign effing Superman and ge'd get injured

Bricking the summer of 2019 is the direct cause of our current injuries. We've been flogging the players that are healthy too hard because of the players that aren't and the lack of alternatives. That leads to more injuries, and the cycle continues.

That has been a pattern for some time now - our transfer record wasn't good enough under Kenwright because we were doing too much shopping in the discount store. That resulted in thin squads, and though the bricks were individually less of an anchor we couldn't capitalize on that.

My biggest issue with Brands though is that there doesn't appear to be any evidence of decent global scouting where we are picking up one or two players cheaper, but ready to go into the side. You won't pack a starting XI with those type of signings, but I think it isn't unreasonable to aim for one a year. I'm talking about players in the £15m bracket or cheaper, particularly from continental Europe.

I would argue that this past summer had to be 100% safe due to summer 2019. Every signing had to make an impact, or we were potentially in the fringes of the relegation fight rather than the European fight.

I think that we could take some risks of the type you describe this summer, but that they'll be limited because that's not why Carlo is here. He's here to establish a baseline for European success so that we can buy better and younger options in the 20-40 million pound range that we currently lose due to a lack of consistent European football.
 

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