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stretford blue
Player Valuation: £35m
I'm really not one to criticize brands without knowing what his remit is ,the managers seem to have more of a say over who comes in, which just leaves a mess to clear up when the manager leaves.
I am sure Paratici spurs new dof will have total control who comes in
AmericasToffee
Player Valuation: £40m
Except Denise. That's her wheelhouse and she's great at it.
People need to realise we were never going to be able to get work permits for SA players anyway.
CrosslIm disappointed that you didnt cross out his name
Vic Vinegar
Player Valuation: £750k
What an utter bum this fella is. Looks like a seat sniffer too.
orly
Please check with me for Blammo criteria
Yes to both. Brands has butchered the finances yet again. He's single handedly responsible for this FFP mess.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
The only metric I can think of, is the points in a season. We went from 48 to 59.
PhoenixIreland
Player Valuation: £1m
How come Anthony Gordon is not in this? How much is he on?
Vic Vinegar
Player Valuation: £750k
We are a very stupid club but I don’t believe that Lossl was on 45k a week.
Pretty sure we have picked up a couple of exciting prospects for the academy in the last couple of years. Slovenian goalie who has had full international call up and a Swedish prospect who a few were after. I think both name checked Brands as persuading them to join. I'm pretty sure his remit was always to look at younger signings with potential?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
An Athletic article last week suggests his work at the academy is to trim its numbers and employ younger players for it on less wages.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Fair enough mate, but over a three year period there isn't much if anything there he could point to, and nothing you could argue that is sustainable.
Little to nothing coming through from the academy and U23s that can either generate profit or add to the first team squad, some truly horrendous transfers, and a complete lack of scouting. Delph, Iwobi, and others just desperately lazy and uninspired buys.
He should go in my opinion. Either he can't do the job or is being prevented from doing it. It's hard to see how anyone with professional pride could remain in the job in those circumstances.
He is returning home after this. None of the elite clubs would touch him, here or abroad. He tried to make the step up, and has failed in an appalling manner.
APN_EFC
Player Valuation: £25m
EDIT - the emotions got the better of me and I could not do punctuation or grammar for this piece of writing. Hope it makes sense though!
I don't know really where to write this now, because all the issues are interconnected:
i have something to say about 5 players, Delph, Gomes, Keane, Gylfi and James for different reasons (Can't believe we'd contemplate letting him go)
But then letting him go speaks to the next dramatic change in recruitment strategy. IF he was good for us 11 months ago, what is the sudden U turn that means he no longer fits.
Oh yeah, and if he no longer fits, what does that say about Brands and the DoF position. And if the DoF is buying Iwobi, Delph, Godfrey, James and Nkounkou, WTF is the strategy anyway?
And Holgate might leave - it's sad only because he showed potential but nobody really could build on it with him, and it's a shame a young English player doesn't make it with us.
And what on earth are we thinking with Benitez. IF, IF he gets us to more than 59 points and more than 10th place, he'll be fine, but he can only do that with some signs of life on the pitch. We can't flatline half way through matches or just play like zombies in some matches. And I feel sorry for him too. If he doesn't do well, he'll get battered by the fans. If he does well, he hast to exorcise the Red Spirit and somehow feel like he's one of us.
it's so complicated.
And Moshiri. Thank you for your £millions, but you need to be cleverer.. I can't imagine what Dortmund , Ajax, Leicester ( who are what Peak-Moyes-Everton were 10 years ago) would have done with that kind of money. They would have been much better with recruitment, behind the scenes etc.
Have we even thought of spending a little less on transfers and more on the best psychologists, nutritionists, fitness trainers, sports scientists, facilities etc?
Has anyone ever heard of what is going on behind the scenes
The young players - and all players - have been at Everton at the absolutely worst time in Everton's recent history. At least under Walker and Smith, we kinda knew we were sleepwalking to disaster. Under Koeman and Silva and especially ANcelotti we had so much hope, but it's like the good signings of the last 5 years have just glossed over all of the rubbish
There have been so many good young players we've had, and by now they should have been finding their form and place in the Premier League. At least 2-3 of them. Just imagine if we had invested in a young manager 5 years ago after Martinez, and really gone with a Ajax - Dortmund - Leicester approach - instead of pretending to be Chelsea, we would be really seeing something special now.
One thing I admired about Arsene Wenger's approach post 2004, which of course didn't work out - was how he had a vision to build a team over 5 - 10 years. Imagine if that group of 6 u20 world cup winners were still in our squad, with Godfrey, James, Allan etc some senior pros like Digne all around them, weould we have been any worse off? And we would have had a core group together for a long time.
But that would have only worked with excellent coaches, and a consistent strategy. Martinez to Koeman to Allardyce to Silva to Ancelotti to Benitez just betrays a total lack of consistency and a complete lack of a plan.
I could accept if we were rubbish, but we had a style and approach, or some players to enjoy, some characters or something to look forward to - the hope that things will get better. Now the hope has killed me I think. RIP me and my club (and obviously I hope that I'm wrong
)
I don't know really where to write this now, because all the issues are interconnected:
i have something to say about 5 players, Delph, Gomes, Keane, Gylfi and James for different reasons (Can't believe we'd contemplate letting him go)
But then letting him go speaks to the next dramatic change in recruitment strategy. IF he was good for us 11 months ago, what is the sudden U turn that means he no longer fits.
Oh yeah, and if he no longer fits, what does that say about Brands and the DoF position. And if the DoF is buying Iwobi, Delph, Godfrey, James and Nkounkou, WTF is the strategy anyway?
And Holgate might leave - it's sad only because he showed potential but nobody really could build on it with him, and it's a shame a young English player doesn't make it with us.
And what on earth are we thinking with Benitez. IF, IF he gets us to more than 59 points and more than 10th place, he'll be fine, but he can only do that with some signs of life on the pitch. We can't flatline half way through matches or just play like zombies in some matches. And I feel sorry for him too. If he doesn't do well, he'll get battered by the fans. If he does well, he hast to exorcise the Red Spirit and somehow feel like he's one of us.
it's so complicated.
And Moshiri. Thank you for your £millions, but you need to be cleverer.. I can't imagine what Dortmund , Ajax, Leicester ( who are what Peak-Moyes-Everton were 10 years ago) would have done with that kind of money. They would have been much better with recruitment, behind the scenes etc.
Have we even thought of spending a little less on transfers and more on the best psychologists, nutritionists, fitness trainers, sports scientists, facilities etc?
Has anyone ever heard of what is going on behind the scenes
The young players - and all players - have been at Everton at the absolutely worst time in Everton's recent history. At least under Walker and Smith, we kinda knew we were sleepwalking to disaster. Under Koeman and Silva and especially ANcelotti we had so much hope, but it's like the good signings of the last 5 years have just glossed over all of the rubbish
There have been so many good young players we've had, and by now they should have been finding their form and place in the Premier League. At least 2-3 of them. Just imagine if we had invested in a young manager 5 years ago after Martinez, and really gone with a Ajax - Dortmund - Leicester approach - instead of pretending to be Chelsea, we would be really seeing something special now.
One thing I admired about Arsene Wenger's approach post 2004, which of course didn't work out - was how he had a vision to build a team over 5 - 10 years. Imagine if that group of 6 u20 world cup winners were still in our squad, with Godfrey, James, Allan etc some senior pros like Digne all around them, weould we have been any worse off? And we would have had a core group together for a long time.
But that would have only worked with excellent coaches, and a consistent strategy. Martinez to Koeman to Allardyce to Silva to Ancelotti to Benitez just betrays a total lack of consistency and a complete lack of a plan.
I could accept if we were rubbish, but we had a style and approach, or some players to enjoy, some characters or something to look forward to - the hope that things will get better. Now the hope has killed me I think. RIP me and my club (and obviously I hope that I'm wrong
)
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Three people have cratered this club to the sorry position we are in right now:EDIT - the emotions got the better of me and I could not do punctuation or grammar for this piece of writing. Hope it makes sense though!
I don't know really where to write this now, because all the issues are interconnected:
i have something to say about 5 players, Delph, Gomes, Keane, Gylfi and James for different reasons (Can't believe we'd contemplate letting him go)
But then letting him go speaks to the next dramatic change in recruitment strategy. IF he was good for us 11 months ago, what is the sudden U turn that means he no longer fits.
Oh yeah, and if he no longer fits, what does that say about Brands and the DoF position. And if the DoF is buying Iwobi, Delph, Godfrey, James and Nkounkou, WTF is the strategy anyway?
And Holgate might leave - it's sad only because he showed potential but nobody really could build on it with him, and it's a shame a young English player doesn't make it with us.
And what on earth are we thinking with Benitez. IF, IF he gets us to more than 59 points and more than 10th place, he'll be fine, but he can only do that with some signs of life on the pitch. We can't flatline half way through matches or just play like zombies in some matches. And I feel sorry for him too. If he doesn't do well, he'll get battered by the fans. If he does well, he hast to exorcise the Red Spirit and somehow feel like he's one of us.
it's so complicated.
And Moshiri. Thank you for your £millions, but you need to be cleverer.. I can't imagine what Dortmund , Ajax, Leicester ( who are what Peak-Moyes-Everton were 10 years ago) would have done with that kind of money. They would have been much better with recruitment, behind the scenes etc.
Have we even thought of spending a little less on transfers and more on the best psychologists, nutritionists, fitness trainers, sports scientists, facilities etc?
Has anyone ever heard of what is going on behind the scenes
The young players - and all players - have been at Everton at the absolutely worst time in Everton's recent history. At least under Walker and Smith, we kinda knew we were sleepwalking to disaster. Under Koeman and Silva and especially ANcelotti we had so much hope, but it's like the good signings of the last 5 years have just glossed over all of the rubbish
There have been so many good young players we've had, and by now they should have been finding their form and place in the Premier League. At least 2-3 of them. Just imagine if we had invested in a young manager 5 years ago after Martinez, and really gone with a Ajax - Dortmund - Leicester approach - instead of pretending to be Chelsea, we would be really seeing something special now.
One thing I admired about Arsene Wenger's approach post 2004, which of course didn't work out - was how he had a vision to build a team over 5 - 10 years. Imagine if that group of 6 u20 world cup winners were still in our squad, with Godfrey, James, Allan etc some senior pros like Digne all around them, weould we have been any worse off? And we would have had a core group together for a long time.
But that would have only worked with excellent coaches, and a consistent strategy. Martinez to Koeman to Allardyce to Silva to Ancelotti to Benitez just betrays a total lack of consistency and a complete lack of a plan.
I could accept if we were rubbish, but we had a style and approach, or some players to enjoy, some characters or something to look forward to - the hope that things will get better. Now the hope has killed me I think. RIP me and my club (and obviously I hope that I'm wrong
Moshiri
Koeman
Brands
They have made decisions that have cost us our reputation and our identity.
Basically there's nothing worth salvaging from this squad barring one or maybe two players. That is a shocking statement after the purchase of half a billion pounds worth of players in 5 years.
And so we are now at the great reset. We need to acknowledge that the day of reckoning is here because of the profligacy of the owner and his key appointments. This is what happens when you have misgovernance on an epic level. It's not on the same level as Leeds United under Ridsdale, but in terms of the severe blow to the morale of this football club, it's not far off it.
We wont fall off the cliff like Leeds, but we really do need to get a culture of hard headed realism into the club to stop the rot or we'll be done for; and we need to act with a bit more humility as fans in terms of expecting major signings and quick solutions. Neither are on the agenda. We are miles and miles off where we should be. The decision-making over the last 5 years has left us almost in the wilderness and we need to step by step make the long journey back. It'll be brutal but doable.
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