Marcel Brands

[trueblue84]

Hes only been here for about 4 years, how can he be expected to have done his job yet?

He needs at least another 27 years in the job and then we will start seeing some serious results, you mark my words.

It took 7 years to get rid of besic and that only happened because his contract (which Martinez extended) ran out.

Brands has done some good things, but is hamstrung by our previous profligacy and his inabilty to hold influence over moshiri and his "flavour of the month" managerial appointments.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Do something dammit!

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

It took 7 years to get rid of besic and that only happened because his contract (which Martinez extended) ran out.

Brands has done some good things, but is hamstrung by our previous profligacy and his inabilty to hold influence over moshiri and his "flavour of the month" managerial appointments.

Again, what did he do at PSV? One championship was won... Great...

 

[trueblue84]

Again, what did he do at PSV? One championship was won... Great...

A pretty comprehensive interview in the echo with someone who worked with him at PSV and AZ. Shows that not only was he highly regarded and successful, but that he hasn't been able to do any of what made him successful while at Everton...

“He had a very big impact,” PSV's General Manager Toon Gerbrands said.

“In the beginning at PSV he had big problems with the money they had."

“The club had a budget based on the Champions League and qualifying from the group stages. For years we didn't qualify so it created big problems and we were not in a position to buy players so it was very difficult when he started at PSV.

“But what he did change was the scouting, he put more people in that department and people who used data because he wanted his own team.”

Gerbrands had previously worked with Brands at AZ for five years, winning an Eredivisie title in 2009, before the director of football moved to one of the country's biggest clubs.

In 2014, Gerbrands made the same switch and together, and with Phillip Cocu in the dugout, they provided the framework for PSV to win five trophies in four years.

At the core of their success was Brands and the way in which he revamped the club's recruitment department.

It soon became the envy of clubs throughout Europe as PSV shrewdly signed a mix of young, exciting players, some deemed unfashionable and many largely unheard of.

Brands also revitalised the club's Academy system and then sold players for huge profits, pocketing the club around £200m in sales during his eight years.

The fruits of his labour will be on the pitch at Wembley with all players either signed by him or brought through the Academy during his spell.

Even the summer's signings were ones teed up by Brands.

“Marcel is an expert in scouting and he looked for players between the age of 18-22,” Gerbrands told the ECHO.

“Those players would be with us for two or three years and learn an extra language, learn about nutrition, learn to play with different tactics and prepare them for the next stage in their career.

“Hirving Lozano, for example, will stay for two years at our club and develop and then the right people will be interested in him.”

“Marcel scouts in special markets and he knows all the players in those age groups, even at 16 or 17 years old,” he adds.

“He knows everything."

“If you ask him about players all over the world at those ages he will be able to say yes or no if they could play in England and in the club's system.”

Gerbrands suspects Brands would class Lozano, the rapid Mexican winger, and Gini Wijnaldum, who joined from a Dutch rival and would earn PSV a healthy profit when he moved to England, as his best signings for the club.

“I think he will say Gini Wijnaldum and Lozano,” he said.

“We got Wijnaldum from Feyenoord (in 2011) and Marcel was 100% convinced we needed this player to win the championship because in the beginning it was a little bit tough.

“Initially the coach played him in an outside position in attack but he wanted to play as a No10 but Marcel stuck with him and talked to him.

“He and Memphis Depay (an Academy product), were the two big players in our first championship in five years.”

Lozano joined PSV from Pachuca in the summer of 2017 after six months of groundwork from Brands, who had taken the club deeper into the South and Central American markets.

“The main difference to our scouting that Marcel made was with South American players,” Gerbrands explains.

“Players from Colombia, Uruguay, Brazil and also in Mexico. We have two Mexican players in our squad now and everybody in that country is now a fan of PSV because of the players we signed.

“Everybody wanted to sign Lozano but Marcel was successful in getting him because he always has a plan for the players.

“It was the personal interest.

“Marcel went to talk to him and his family two times and so then there was a relationship.

“He told Lozano that PSV would develop him and prepare him to make the step into Europe but it was that personal interest which meant the club signed him.

“He will stay with us for two years and then make the big step to a big club.”

Brands has started to make changes to Everton's scouting department in recent weeks and Gerbrands has revealed how the 56-year-old operated at PSV.

“Marcel had seven scouts at PSV and so he would receive six or seven reports on if a certain player could be a player for PSV,” he explains

“Then he would go and watch the player himself. He is a very hard worker and will never sign a player that he has not seen.”

Brands offered a glimpse of his transfer mettle this summer when he brought Yerry Mina to the club from Barcelona.

It was a deal that went right through to deadline day with the Blues' transfer chief at loggerheads with the Catalan giants, refusing to budge on his valuation of the Colombian defender.

“Marcel had seven scouts at PSV and so he would receive six or seven reports on if a certain player could be a player for PSV,” he explains

“Then he would go and watch the player himself. He is a very hard worker and will never sign a player that he has not seen.”

Brands offered a glimpse of his transfer mettle this summer when he brought Yerry Mina to the club from Barcelona.

It was a deal that went right through to deadline day with the Blues' transfer chief at loggerheads with the Catalan giants, refusing to budge on his valuation of the Colombian defender.

Gerbrands says Brands has always driven a hard bargain.

And Gerbrands, invited to Goodison by Brands for the recent game with Crystal Palace, says PSV were disappointed to lose such an influential figure but were not going to stand in his way.

“We were also proud that he went to Everton,” he said.

“Everton had already asked about Marcel one year before. They did their best with a meeting to get him over there.

“We knew he had done a good job for eight years and so at his age, 56, it was a good chance now to be a technical director at the highest level in England. This was his chance.”

Everton also see Brands as their big chance.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...ews/how-everton-transfer-guru-marcel-15269073

 

[Kaiser Soysauce]

A pretty comprehensive interview in the echo with someone who worked with him at PSV and AZ. Shows that not only was he highly regarded and successful, but that he hasn't been able to do any of what made him successful while at Everton...

“He had a very big impact,” PSV's General Manager Toon Gerbrands said.

“In the beginning at PSV he had big problems with the money they had."

“The club had a budget based on the Champions League and qualifying from the group stages. For years we didn't qualify so it created big problems and we were not in a position to buy players so it was very difficult when he started at PSV.

“But what he did change was the scouting, he put more people in that department and people who used data because he wanted his own team.”

Gerbrands had previously worked with Brands at AZ for five years, winning an Eredivisie title in 2009, before the director of football moved to one of the country's biggest clubs.

In 2014, Gerbrands made the same switch and together, and with Phillip Cocu in the dugout, they provided the framework for PSV to win five trophies in four years.

At the core of their success was Brands and the way in which he revamped the club's recruitment department.

It soon became the envy of clubs throughout Europe as PSV shrewdly signed a mix of young, exciting players, some deemed unfashionable and many largely unheard of.

Brands also revitalised the club's Academy system and then sold players for huge profits, pocketing the club around £200m in sales during his eight years.

The fruits of his labour will be on the pitch at Wembley with all players either signed by him or brought through the Academy during his spell.

Even the summer's signings were ones teed up by Brands.

“Marcel is an expert in scouting and he looked for players between the age of 18-22,” Gerbrands told the ECHO.

“Those players would be with us for two or three years and learn an extra language, learn about nutrition, learn to play with different tactics and prepare them for the next stage in their career.

“Hirving Lozano, for example, will stay for two years at our club and develop and then the right people will be interested in him.”

“Marcel scouts in special markets and he knows all the players in those age groups, even at 16 or 17 years old,” he adds.

“He knows everything."

“If you ask him about players all over the world at those ages he will be able to say yes or no if they could play in England and in the club's system.”

Gerbrands suspects Brands would class Lozano, the rapid Mexican winger, and Gini Wijnaldum, who joined from a Dutch rival and would earn PSV a healthy profit when he moved to England, as his best signings for the club.

“I think he will say Gini Wijnaldum and Lozano,” he said.

“We got Wijnaldum from Feyenoord (in 2011) and Marcel was 100% convinced we needed this player to win the championship because in the beginning it was a little bit tough.

“Initially the coach played him in an outside position in attack but he wanted to play as a No10 but Marcel stuck with him and talked to him.

“He and Memphis Depay (an Academy product), were the two big players in our first championship in five years.”

Lozano joined PSV from Pachuca in the summer of 2017 after six months of groundwork from Brands, who had taken the club deeper into the South and Central American markets.

“The main difference to our scouting that Marcel made was with South American players,” Gerbrands explains.

“Players from Colombia, Uruguay, Brazil and also in Mexico. We have two Mexican players in our squad now and everybody in that country is now a fan of PSV because of the players we signed.

“Everybody wanted to sign Lozano but Marcel was successful in getting him because he always has a plan for the players.

“It was the personal interest.

“Marcel went to talk to him and his family two times and so then there was a relationship.

“He told Lozano that PSV would develop him and prepare him to make the step into Europe but it was that personal interest which meant the club signed him.

“He will stay with us for two years and then make the big step to a big club.”

Brands has started to make changes to Everton's scouting department in recent weeks and Gerbrands has revealed how the 56-year-old operated at PSV.

“Marcel had seven scouts at PSV and so he would receive six or seven reports on if a certain player could be a player for PSV,” he explains

“Then he would go and watch the player himself. He is a very hard worker and will never sign a player that he has not seen.”

Brands offered a glimpse of his transfer mettle this summer when he brought Yerry Mina to the club from Barcelona.

It was a deal that went right through to deadline day with the Blues' transfer chief at loggerheads with the Catalan giants, refusing to budge on his valuation of the Colombian defender.

“Marcel had seven scouts at PSV and so he would receive six or seven reports on if a certain player could be a player for PSV,” he explains

“Then he would go and watch the player himself. He is a very hard worker and will never sign a player that he has not seen.”

Brands offered a glimpse of his transfer mettle this summer when he brought Yerry Mina to the club from Barcelona.

It was a deal that went right through to deadline day with the Blues' transfer chief at loggerheads with the Catalan giants, refusing to budge on his valuation of the Colombian defender.

Gerbrands says Brands has always driven a hard bargain.

And Gerbrands, invited to Goodison by Brands for the recent game with Crystal Palace, says PSV were disappointed to lose such an influential figure but were not going to stand in his way.

“We were also proud that he went to Everton,” he said.

“Everton had already asked about Marcel one year before. They did their best with a meeting to get him over there.

“We knew he had done a good job for eight years and so at his age, 56, it was a good chance now to be a technical director at the highest level in England. This was his chance.”

Everton also see Brands as their big chance.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...ews/how-everton-transfer-guru-marcel-15269073

 

[Nymzee]

Maybe he's gonna jump ship to Inter Milan.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

A pretty comprehensive interview in the echo with someone who worked with him at PSV and AZ. Shows that not only was he highly regarded and successful, but that he hasn't been able to do any of what made him successful while at Everton...

“He had a very big impact,” PSV's General Manager Toon Gerbrands said.

“In the beginning at PSV he had big problems with the money they had."

“The club had a budget based on the Champions League and qualifying from the group stages. For years we didn't qualify so it created big problems and we were not in a position to buy players so it was very difficult when he started at PSV.

“But what he did change was the scouting, he put more people in that department and people who used data because he wanted his own team.”

Gerbrands had previously worked with Brands at AZ for five years, winning an Eredivisie title in 2009, before the director of football moved to one of the country's biggest clubs.

In 2014, Gerbrands made the same switch and together, and with Phillip Cocu in the dugout, they provided the framework for PSV to win five trophies in four years.

At the core of their success was Brands and the way in which he revamped the club's recruitment department.

It soon became the envy of clubs throughout Europe as PSV shrewdly signed a mix of young, exciting players, some deemed unfashionable and many largely unheard of.

Brands also revitalised the club's Academy system and then sold players for huge profits, pocketing the club around £200m in sales during his eight years.

The fruits of his labour will be on the pitch at Wembley with all players either signed by him or brought through the Academy during his spell.

Even the summer's signings were ones teed up by Brands.

“Marcel is an expert in scouting and he looked for players between the age of 18-22,” Gerbrands told the ECHO.

“Those players would be with us for two or three years and learn an extra language, learn about nutrition, learn to play with different tactics and prepare them for the next stage in their career.

“Hirving Lozano, for example, will stay for two years at our club and develop and then the right people will be interested in him.”

“Marcel scouts in special markets and he knows all the players in those age groups, even at 16 or 17 years old,” he adds.

“He knows everything."

“If you ask him about players all over the world at those ages he will be able to say yes or no if they could play in England and in the club's system.”

Gerbrands suspects Brands would class Lozano, the rapid Mexican winger, and Gini Wijnaldum, who joined from a Dutch rival and would earn PSV a healthy profit when he moved to England, as his best signings for the club.

“I think he will say Gini Wijnaldum and Lozano,” he said.

“We got Wijnaldum from Feyenoord (in 2011) and Marcel was 100% convinced we needed this player to win the championship because in the beginning it was a little bit tough.

“Initially the coach played him in an outside position in attack but he wanted to play as a No10 but Marcel stuck with him and talked to him.

“He and Memphis Depay (an Academy product), were the two big players in our first championship in five years.”

Lozano joined PSV from Pachuca in the summer of 2017 after six months of groundwork from Brands, who had taken the club deeper into the South and Central American markets.

“The main difference to our scouting that Marcel made was with South American players,” Gerbrands explains.

“Players from Colombia, Uruguay, Brazil and also in Mexico. We have two Mexican players in our squad now and everybody in that country is now a fan of PSV because of the players we signed.

“Everybody wanted to sign Lozano but Marcel was successful in getting him because he always has a plan for the players.

“It was the personal interest.

“Marcel went to talk to him and his family two times and so then there was a relationship.

“He told Lozano that PSV would develop him and prepare him to make the step into Europe but it was that personal interest which meant the club signed him.

“He will stay with us for two years and then make the big step to a big club.”

Brands has started to make changes to Everton's scouting department in recent weeks and Gerbrands has revealed how the 56-year-old operated at PSV.

“Marcel had seven scouts at PSV and so he would receive six or seven reports on if a certain player could be a player for PSV,” he explains

“Then he would go and watch the player himself. He is a very hard worker and will never sign a player that he has not seen.”

Brands offered a glimpse of his transfer mettle this summer when he brought Yerry Mina to the club from Barcelona.

It was a deal that went right through to deadline day with the Blues' transfer chief at loggerheads with the Catalan giants, refusing to budge on his valuation of the Colombian defender.

“Marcel had seven scouts at PSV and so he would receive six or seven reports on if a certain player could be a player for PSV,” he explains

“Then he would go and watch the player himself. He is a very hard worker and will never sign a player that he has not seen.”

Brands offered a glimpse of his transfer mettle this summer when he brought Yerry Mina to the club from Barcelona.

It was a deal that went right through to deadline day with the Blues' transfer chief at loggerheads with the Catalan giants, refusing to budge on his valuation of the Colombian defender.

Gerbrands says Brands has always driven a hard bargain.

And Gerbrands, invited to Goodison by Brands for the recent game with Crystal Palace, says PSV were disappointed to lose such an influential figure but were not going to stand in his way.

“We were also proud that he went to Everton,” he said.

“Everton had already asked about Marcel one year before. They did their best with a meeting to get him over there.

“We knew he had done a good job for eight years and so at his age, 56, it was a good chance now to be a technical director at the highest level in England. This was his chance.”

Everton also see Brands as their big chance.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...ews/how-everton-transfer-guru-marcel-15269073

An interview with a personal friend of his is not real proof. Of course, the truth is often more nuanced than it seems...

Depaay: top talent at youth level, hardly an achievement for Brands

Wijnaldum: Quality player. Blossomed to something better under Klopp. Did nothing at Newcastle.

Dries Mertens & Lozano: Quality players (on a Italian level)

Championship @ AZ: might have something to do with Louis Van Gaal. Van Gaal had total control on all footballing matters, that's just who he is.

Succes of the whole DOF-system should only be mesured in Silverware/league position. Otherwise, one could argue that they DoF at Southampton is the best in the league

 

[davek]

A pretty comprehensive interview in the echo with someone who worked with him at PSV and AZ. Shows that not only was he highly regarded and successful, but that he hasn't been able to do any of what made him successful while at Everton...

“He had a very big impact,” PSV's General Manager Toon Gerbrands said.

“In the beginning at PSV he had big problems with the money they had."

“The club had a budget based on the Champions League and qualifying from the group stages. For years we didn't qualify so it created big problems and we were not in a position to buy players so it was very difficult when he started at PSV.

“But what he did change was the scouting, he put more people in that department and people who used data because he wanted his own team.”

Gerbrands had previously worked with Brands at AZ for five years, winning an Eredivisie title in 2009, before the director of football moved to one of the country's biggest clubs.

In 2014, Gerbrands made the same switch and together, and with Phillip Cocu in the dugout, they provided the framework for PSV to win five trophies in four years.

At the core of their success was Brands and the way in which he revamped the club's recruitment department.

It soon became the envy of clubs throughout Europe as PSV shrewdly signed a mix of young, exciting players, some deemed unfashionable and many largely unheard of.

Brands also revitalised the club's Academy system and then sold players for huge profits, pocketing the club around £200m in sales during his eight years.

The fruits of his labour will be on the pitch at Wembley with all players either signed by him or brought through the Academy during his spell.

Even the summer's signings were ones teed up by Brands.

“Marcel is an expert in scouting and he looked for players between the age of 18-22,” Gerbrands told the ECHO.

“Those players would be with us for two or three years and learn an extra language, learn about nutrition, learn to play with different tactics and prepare them for the next stage in their career.

“Hirving Lozano, for example, will stay for two years at our club and develop and then the right people will be interested in him.”

“Marcel scouts in special markets and he knows all the players in those age groups, even at 16 or 17 years old,” he adds.

“He knows everything."

“If you ask him about players all over the world at those ages he will be able to say yes or no if they could play in England and in the club's system.”

Gerbrands suspects Brands would class Lozano, the rapid Mexican winger, and Gini Wijnaldum, who joined from a Dutch rival and would earn PSV a healthy profit when he moved to England, as his best signings for the club.

“I think he will say Gini Wijnaldum and Lozano,” he said.

“We got Wijnaldum from Feyenoord (in 2011) and Marcel was 100% convinced we needed this player to win the championship because in the beginning it was a little bit tough.

“Initially the coach played him in an outside position in attack but he wanted to play as a No10 but Marcel stuck with him and talked to him.

“He and Memphis Depay (an Academy product), were the two big players in our first championship in five years.”

Lozano joined PSV from Pachuca in the summer of 2017 after six months of groundwork from Brands, who had taken the club deeper into the South and Central American markets.

“The main difference to our scouting that Marcel made was with South American players,” Gerbrands explains.

“Players from Colombia, Uruguay, Brazil and also in Mexico. We have two Mexican players in our squad now and everybody in that country is now a fan of PSV because of the players we signed.

“Everybody wanted to sign Lozano but Marcel was successful in getting him because he always has a plan for the players.

“It was the personal interest.

“Marcel went to talk to him and his family two times and so then there was a relationship.

“He told Lozano that PSV would develop him and prepare him to make the step into Europe but it was that personal interest which meant the club signed him.

“He will stay with us for two years and then make the big step to a big club.”

Brands has started to make changes to Everton's scouting department in recent weeks and Gerbrands has revealed how the 56-year-old operated at PSV.

“Marcel had seven scouts at PSV and so he would receive six or seven reports on if a certain player could be a player for PSV,” he explains

“Then he would go and watch the player himself. He is a very hard worker and will never sign a player that he has not seen.”

Brands offered a glimpse of his transfer mettle this summer when he brought Yerry Mina to the club from Barcelona.

It was a deal that went right through to deadline day with the Blues' transfer chief at loggerheads with the Catalan giants, refusing to budge on his valuation of the Colombian defender.

“Marcel had seven scouts at PSV and so he would receive six or seven reports on if a certain player could be a player for PSV,” he explains

“Then he would go and watch the player himself. He is a very hard worker and will never sign a player that he has not seen.”

Brands offered a glimpse of his transfer mettle this summer when he brought Yerry Mina to the club from Barcelona.

It was a deal that went right through to deadline day with the Blues' transfer chief at loggerheads with the Catalan giants, refusing to budge on his valuation of the Colombian defender.

Gerbrands says Brands has always driven a hard bargain.

And Gerbrands, invited to Goodison by Brands for the recent game with Crystal Palace, says PSV were disappointed to lose such an influential figure but were not going to stand in his way.

“We were also proud that he went to Everton,” he said.

“Everton had already asked about Marcel one year before. They did their best with a meeting to get him over there.

“We knew he had done a good job for eight years and so at his age, 56, it was a good chance now to be a technical director at the highest level in England. This was his chance.”

Everton also see Brands as their big chance.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...ews/how-everton-transfer-guru-marcel-15269073

"Everton transfer guru Marcel Brands".

lol lol lol

 

[windymiller]

One of my fave posts from Dave.


Post in thread 'Goats squad analysis thread 2019/20'
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/goats-squad-analysis-thread-2019-20.106821/post-7181321

Dave's ability to get everything wrong all the time knows no bounds!

 

[ToffeeTim]

5 days to go.

Any word of moving players on and helping improve the squad?

Any chance of the right back we've been waiting for 3 years?

 

[Blue83]

Hi Marcel there's this thing called a date of birth, it signifies when a person is born and is something that doesn't change

Take Seamus for example his date of birth is 11 October 1988, that makes him 33 as we're now in 2021 so 2021 - 1988 = 33

It's about time you bought a replacement for him, you should have gotten one 3 years ago really unless you actually believe a persons age can change depending on what season it is or some other mad reason you pulled out of your arse to avoid doing your job

 

[Nymzee]

Hi Marcel there's this thing called a date of birth, it signifies when a person is born and is something that doesn't change

Take Seamus for example his date of birth is 11 October 1988, that makes him 33 as we're now in 2021 so 2021 - 1988 = 33

It's about time you bought a replacement for him, you should have gotten one 3 years ago really unless you actually believe a persons age can change depending on what season it is or some other mad reason you pulled out of your arse to avoid doing your job

Hate to poop on your parade mate but it's still August so Seamus isn't 33.

 

[nsno-chris]

Hi Marcel there's this thing called a date of birth, it signifies when a person is born and is something that doesn't change

Take Seamus for example his date of birth is 11 October 1988, that makes him 33 as we're now in 2021 so 2021 - 1988 = 33

It's about time you bought a replacement for him, you should have gotten one 3 years ago really unless you actually believe a persons age can change depending on what season it is or some other mad reason you pulled out of your arse to avoid doing your job

 

[maccavennie]

Superb work by Brands to loan out Kean again by the looks of it.

Bet he's secured us a 200k fee as well.

 

[MikeH72]

Please sack this man.