Marcel Brands

[Eggs]

How do you explain the RB and RW situation if it’s all down to Benitez and Moshiri? He’s had 7 transfer windows and several managers to sort, yet it’s still our weakest area.

…I’m not defending him, I just don’t believe he carries the responsibility you would normally associate with a DoF.

As for the RB situation, it appears a succession of Managers really like Coleman and even seek his counsel. Sidebe was brought in but didn’t do enough to earn a permanent deal, perhaps Ancelotti was content with the RB options he had,

 

[brieverton]

Three years in, and the only tangible mark to his tenure is falling foul of FFP.

He inherited a mess, certainly.

His job was to stop the bleeding.

Instead, he has plunged the knife in deeper.

First, you put a halt to what contributes to the mess. Second, you deal with said mess brick by brick.

We are only at the point we are at now because regulations have forced action upon us.

If he is being stopped from doing his job, then resign with some dignity.

If he simply isn't up to it, and that's what the evidence suggests, he should be fired.

 

[trueblue84]

Three years in, and the only tangible mark to his tenure is falling foul of FFP.

He inherited a mess, certainly.

His job was to stop the bleeding.

Instead, he has plunged the knife in deeper.

First, you put a halt to what contributes to the mess. Second, you deal with said mess brick by brick.

We are only at the point we are at now because regulations have forced action upon us.

If he is being stopped from doing his job, then resign with some dignity.

If he simply isn't up to it, and that's what the evidence suggests, he should be fired.

We haven't really seen what brands can do as he's been consistently dictated to or overuled by moshiri and whatever manager has been in charge at the time.

That said, those reasons Ive mentioned above are reason enough for him to go.

 

[Daytripper]

We haven't really seen what brands can do as he's been consistently dictated to or overuled by moshiri and whatever manager has been in charge at the time.

That said, those reasons Ive mentioned above are reason enough for him to go.

I’m not having a go at you here, where is this coming from in the sense of Brands not being able to do his job? Has there been a quote or any indication of it?

The reason I ask is Steve Walsh gets a lot of stick, I understand it, a poor appointment him and Koeman. Was he allowed to do his job or was there interference like people are saying regarding Brands?

It reminds me of Kenwright, there was talk he more or less has no say in matters yet he’s still there as chairman and the local bog roll I.e the echo indicated a while back he’s still involved in transfers in some capacity.

I feel a lot of folk don’t point out the main problems here at times, it’s clear it’s collective responsibility and too many times we take a step forward and two or three back.

 

[blueconverse]

There must be a rightback in world football who is a better prospect than Kenny and could replace Coleman for half the games that would not cost over 5 million. Even a risky younger player but finding that player would require scouting outside the PL and that isnt Brands cup of tea. Useless skinny jeaned tit.

 

[Eggs]

I’m not having a go at you here, where is this coming from in the sense of Brands not being able to do his job? Has there been a quote or any indication of it?

The reason I ask is Steve Walsh gets a lot of stick, I understand it, a poor appointment him and Koeman. Was he allowed to do his job or was there interference like people are saying regarding Brands?

It reminds me of Kenwright, there was talk he more or less has no say in matters yet he’s still there as chairman and the local bog roll I.e the echo indicated a while back he’s still involved in transfers in some capacity.

I feel a lot of folk don’t point out the main problems here at times, it’s clear it’s collective responsibility and too many times we take a step forward and two or three back.

…Brands is on record himself as saying he can’t bring anybody in without getting the green light from Benitez. We know Managers can bring in their own targets but there seems evidence Moshiri is dealing directly with agents, I do believe there’s an interview where he claims responsibility for Tosun.

if this is the process, then it’s a mess.

 

[trueblue84]

I’m not having a go at you here, where is this coming from in the sense of Brands not being able to do his job? Has there been a quote or any indication of it?

The reason I ask is Steve Walsh gets a lot of stick, I understand it, a poor appointment him and Koeman. Was he allowed to do his job or was there interference like people are saying regarding Brands?

It reminds me of Kenwright, there was talk he more or less has no say in matters yet he’s still there as chairman and the local bog roll I.e the echo indicated a while back he’s still involved in transfers in some capacity.

I feel a lot of folk don’t point out the main problems here at times, it’s clear it’s collective responsibility and too many times we take a step forward and two or three back.

Tosun, Walcott and Iwobi were moshiri signings. Moshiri wanted zaha, when brands didnt.

Silva, allardyce, ancelotti and benitez were moshiri appointments.

Richarlison and Bernard were Silva signings. Rodriguez and Allan were ancelotti signings. Ancelotti admitted he didn't know anything about Godfrey, so safe to assume that went through the proper channels (scouts/brands).

 

[Daytripper]

Tosun, Walcott and Iwobi were moshiri signings. Moshiri wanted zaha, when brands didnt.

Silva, allardyce, ancelotti and benitez were moshiri appointments.

Richarlison and Bernard were Silva signings. Rodriguez and Allan were ancelotti signings. Ancelotti admitted he didn't know anything about Godfrey, so safe to assume that went through the proper channels (scouts/brands).

A mess isn’t it

 

[trueblue84]

…Brands is on record himself as saying he can’t bring anybody in without getting the green light from Benitez. We know Managers can bring in their own targets but there seems evidence Moshiri is dealing directly with agents, I do believe there’s an interview where he claims responsibility for Tosun.

if this is the process, then it’s a mess.

He did and he said he bought him off the back of one champions League game while he was at home in Monaco. He then thought it was funny to say something along the lines of "I think he'll be a good signing, but he could be rubbish".

 

[JLW]

Someone give this fella a nudge and whisper 'Right Back' in his ear

 

[andy4efc]

We haven't really seen what brands can do as he's been consistently dictated to or overuled by moshiri and whatever manager has been in charge at the time.

That said, those reasons Ive mentioned above are reason enough for him to go.

I think there are elements to all of it that ring true.

Brands hasn't covered himself in much glory. He is not beyond criticism.
Not selling our deadwood is partly Brands but also down to the fact they're garbage and on high wages. If we the fans can see these are crap, then other clubs professionals are not buying them
Brands came out stating stability was everything not long before Silva was sacked. This may have been a rally-cry to show support but ultimately i agree with it. Not that i disagree'd with Silva's sacking.
Moshiri has made hirings that are 100% not Brands.
There have been signings that are 100% not Brands.

Brands hasn't been fantastic, but how does a DOF create an identity when the manager changes every season, the chairman interferes, players who have proven themselves not to be arsed, get no interest from anyone. On the flipside, Brands, who is on the board now, should be pushing and saying let me do my job, dont interfere and then prove himself. Brands has a very good reputation in football, he will have no issue finding another top job. If he isn't pushing back and stating what the plan IS and should be, then thats a problem in itself.

I think its a tough job. I dont think anyone at the club has covered themselves in glory. Moshiri has backed every manager so far but he seems to lack some football knowledge, which is fine but that's why you can have a DOF who is clued up, just leave him to it! I despise Kenwright, but if Moyes wanted a player Kenwright would trust his word so when we did sign someone for big money (at that time) then the manager was trusted.

 

[davek]

Someone give this fella a nudge and whisper 'Right Back' in his ear

Someone's probably giving him a nudge in a bar in Amsterdam and whispering "more schnapps, meneer?"

 

[radiostar]

Hes only been here for about 4 years, how can he be expected to have done his job yet?

He needs at least another 27 years in the job and then we will start seeing some serious results, you mark my words.

 

[ArtetaMoney]

…I’m not defending him, I just don’t believe he carries the responsibility you would normally associate with a DoF.

As for the RB situation, it appears a succession of Managers really like Coleman and even seek his counsel. Sidebe was brought in but didn’t do enough to earn a permanent deal, perhaps Ancelotti was content with the RB options he had,

I wasn't having a go, it was a genuine question. I see a lot of people saying he has no say in transfers, due to being overruled by Ancelotti and now Benitez, but he has had a while here to rectify it.

I don't think any manager would want Coleman as their first choice, his decline has been pretty spectacular as to where he once was. I do believe they would want to keep him around as back up, much like Baines was to Digne.

 

[JLW]

Hes only been here for about 4 years, how can he be expected to have done his job yet?

He needs at least another 27 years in the job and then we will start seeing some serious results, you mark my words.

Colemans replacement hasn't been born yet