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Marcelo Bielsa

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MikeH72 said:
Dyche is more what we need right now if we want to stay up tbh. If we’ve accepted relegation and want to completely rebuild the squad in a different image from scratch in the summer, then Bielsa would be the better fit.
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If you truly knew what you were getting with Bielsa, you'd take the relegation right now.
 
MikeH72 said:
How the hell would this squad of lazy, unfit, technically deficient, slow, weak minded players adapt to Marcelo Bielsa in the middle of a season? There is not a chance in hell we stay up with Bielsa, it is as close to guaranteed relegation as you could get imo.
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I agree, but I guess you could make an argument that with four signings we could scrape by. Onana, Garner and Iwobi in midfield might be able to keep up with his style. Gray isn't good enough but he's quick and fit. If we can get one winger, one striker, two defenders, maybe that's enough? It'd be the defenders I'd be most worried about. Mina, Tarkowski and Coady do everything so slowly, and I'm afraid Godfrey and Mykolenko would be exposed defensively in his system.

Grasping at straws for sure.
 
ZissouBlue said:
I agree, but I guess you could make an argument that with four signings we could scrape by. Onana, Garner and Iwobi in midfield might be able to keep up with his style. Gray isn't good enough but he's quick and fit. If we can get one winger, one striker, two defenders, maybe that's enough? It'd be the defenders I'd be most worried about. Mina, Tarkowski and Coady do everything so slowly, and I'm afraid Godfrey and Mykolenko would be exposed defensively in his system.

Grasping at straws for sure.
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There’s 5 days of the window left mate.
 


MikeH72 said:
How the hell would this squad of lazy, unfit, technically deficient, slow, weak minded players adapt to Marcelo Bielsa in the middle of a season? There is not a chance in hell we stay up with Bielsa, it is as close to guaranteed relegation as you could get imo.
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Nah. He is a really good coach and improves players. He is ruthless enough to exact some actual standards from our board and to sack off those who don't want to do what's necessary.

He has never taken a job mid-season before so if a man who is famous for his demands of the club takes it, he will have to adapt his style a little bit without preseason. He has such a tactical mind that I'm sure he could do it.

Where it went wrong with Leeds, is that you can only play to that intensity for so long without refreshing the squad. It's what has happened this year with Liverpool and Klopp. When the injuries started mounting, Leeds and Victor Orta let him down a bit with not getting the right kind of players in.

My best mate is a Leeds fan and I probably end up going to Elland Road with him a couple of times a season. It was electric there with Bielsa in charge. Think it could be really special at Goodison.

That said, the more sensible approach would be to look at a young, up and coming coach who fits in with Thelwell's objectives, seeing as we bothered appointing the fella as DoF. But of the 2 options, I genuinely feel more confident of avoiding the drop with Bielsa and would expect us to get our act together next year under him, regardless of the division we are in. Dyche: none of the above.
 
football manager stuff here but could he convince Pep to let us have Phillips for half a season. He knows Bielsa-ball, he isn't getting gametime at City and Pep had made a comment about his fitness.
 
Dwight K Schrute said:
Nah. He is a really good coach and improves players. He is ruthless enough to exact some actual standards from our board and to sack off those who don't want to do what's necessary.

He has never taken a job mid-season before so if a man who is famous for his demands of the club takes it, he will have to adapt his style a little bit without preseason. He has such a tactical mind that I'm sure he could do it.

Where it went wrong with Leeds, is that you can only play to that intensity for so long without refreshing the squad. It's what has happened this year with Liverpool and Klopp. When the injuries started mounting, Leeds and Victor Orta let him down a bit with not getting the right kind of players in.

My best mate is a Leeds fan and I probably end up going to Elland Road with him a couple of times a season. It was electric there with Bielsa in charge. Think it could be really special at Goodison.

That said, the more sensible approach would be to look at a young, up and coming coach who fits in with Thelwell's objectives, seeing as we bothered appointing the fella as DoF. But of the 2 options, I genuinely feel more confident of avoiding the drop with Bielsa and would expect us to get our act together next year under him, regardless of the division we are in. Dyche: none of the above.
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He is absolutely not going to adapt his style, that is the issue. He’s 68 years old and been managing for 30 years, he isn’t about to change now. None of his positive attributes lend themselves to taking over a slow, feeble, unfit squad of players with bad attitudes with 18 games left of a season. This would be a completely different conversation if we were having it at the end of the season as we prepare for the Championship.
 

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