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Marcelo Bielsa

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No thanks. Seeing this Argentinian scruff in his joggers squatting on his potty on the touch line would finish me.
Just to be clear, you survived this, but Bielsa sitting on a bucket is where you draw the line?

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Go down fighting? That's more like romanticising it, and whatever it is Bielsa does. We know he does tactics and percentages, but is probably not the best man manager kind of guy.

You could argue we need more of the latter for someone to come in and give our squad a real do - over, and I kinda get the notion a guy like Bielsa would need more time (than we have) to make a difference, but then again: drastic action and discipline behind the scenes could be just the tonic.

I think most of us don't really know what the difference would be with Bielsa in but out of all the options I would let him have a go rather than someone like Dyche or Allardyce
 
At the time I preferred Carlo of the two, just because he's Carlo

Arsenal is Arteta's team as well. I don't think he would have attacked the Everton job with the same passion to be honest. The Arsenal gig means more to him. We were just a stepping stone, Arsenal is the club he loves
Arteta has done brilliantly. I was certainly wrong about him so far. However, if you give me a choice between Arteta and Ancelotti, which is more or less how this was discussed in 2019, then it's Carlo every day of the week for me. Now, we can say Carlo - one of the all-time greats - was not the right "fit" for Everton, but there is no guarantee Mikel would have been either. He has had a chance to build something at Arsenal - a club that, for all it's own problems, functions at a far higher level than Everton does. How would he have fared with our charlatans? We know that the great Carlo just about managed to play them all off against each other and finished mid-table after a spectacular start. A less brilliant operator, i.e., basically every other manager in the game, would likely have struggled by comparison.

Arteta has done tremendously. If he can win the league, he'll have done incredibly. I hope he does. But football is fickle. If City reel them in - which I still suspect they will - then I hope the disappointment doesn't slowly fester and start to bring the house down on him. Carlo was second at about the same point in his season with us, remember...
 

Arteta was linked at the time we took Ancelotti mate. There’s been time and money since. Do you mind me asking if you wanted Arteta at the time
At the time he was an unproven coach at Man City, no reson to believe he would have gone on to be a good manager.

And your right time and money has been spent at Everton since but not well and Arteta being here wouldn't have meant that the years of mis-management didn't happen or 500 million mis-spent.

In answer to your question, I wouldn't have been against giving him a chance at that time, and I am in agreement he's done wonders at Arsenal but I don't agree he would have replicated that here.

It's my belief that these issues run deeper than a manager, multiple title winner Carlo Ancielotti couldn't do it who can??
 
Go down fighting? That's more like romanticising it, and whatever it is Bielsa does. We know he does tactics and percentages, but is probably not the best man manager kind of guy.

You could argue we need more of the latter for someone to come in and give our squad a real do - over, and I kinda get the notion a guy like Bielsa would need more time (than we have) to make a difference, but then again: drastic action and discipline behind the scenes could be just the tonic.

I think most of us don't really know what the difference would be with Bielsa in but out of all the options I would let him have a go rather than someone like Dyche or Allardyce
This really. I imagine Lampard has pretty good relationships with the players, as he seems personable enough, but that didn’t seem to help. Dyche or Allardyce would not only be and uninspired appointment, it could turn the ground toxic again, which we all know also affects performance. I understand the hesitancy around his suicide approach, but we are dying as it is, just slowly bleeding out. I’d rather roll the dice on this maniac than go down regardless with a whimper and a succession of 0-0s. At least the championship rebuild would have a plan too.
 

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