2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[ForeverBlue92]

We can’t let the players fire another manager otherwise they will do exactly the same to the next one. They need to see players leaving rather than the manager so the message is rammed home that they can’t just down tools every time they feel like it. We need to stick with Silva and let him fix some of the problems we have in the playing squad. There’s a rotten core that needs flushing out. Schneiderlin, Keane, Baines, Siggurdson, Gueye, Jagielka, Walcott all need moving on and that’s before we even get to the clowns who are out on loan.

Funny how the rotten core changes all the time.

Under RM it was Howard, Eto'o, Distin and Baines

Under Koeman it was Barkley, Rom, Mirallas and Williams

Now under Silva its Gylfi, Schnerderlin and Jags.


Maybe just maybe all those players were being coached by loser managers who are absolutely garbage?

 

[zzr45]

No wonder some people like Martinez lol.

McCarthy - come on he won’t get fit. Has finished about 3 or 4 years ago. 16 games in 3 seasons.
Lemon - he peaked when he’s at Spurs. So can you use Walcott’s peak to compare?
Cleverley - just crap.
Del - found his level now.
Barry - at his peak (City) yes but he is playing for West Brom now and time is catching him up. Gana and Barry are not the same type of player. Gana is ball winner Barry is an anchor.
Holgate - you know there’s a reason why he was loaned out. Just ain’t very good.

I didn’t care for Martinez at all. But if you can’t look at the dross we had yesterday and can’t see it’s a huge regression from the squad we had under him then more fool you. The likes of Cleverly and Delefeou would of added something yesterday. Even if it was to stop the rot.

 

[banno]

This is what I dont get, dont sack him now when we`ve got nothing to play for but lets give him 1 oe 2 months of next season and sack him then.

What do you think is more harmful? I just cant fathom this kind of thinking.....

He might not get sacked at the start of the new season. He might have it figured out with the squad ridden of the deadwood and some new players in. We can't guess what will happen until it happens. He might be a revelation next season. Let him have his summer and up till around Christmas when he can be judged sensibly when he has had time to sort it out or not.

 

[Kinky Koeman]

I’m backing Silva, not judging him on this season. For me it’s a crap team with no foundation before he arrived. We have bought well but the job is more difficult than one window can resolve.

I would like to see us give him the opportunity to turn us around.

Realising a load of people want a new manager, but who could achieve anything with this squad? I don’t think anyone could get more out of them. There’s too much crap in the squad to realistically expect us to beat the likes of Wolves and the West Ham’s of the prem as we don’t have the correct players for his system.

 

[Sharpies volley]

We can’t let the players fire another manager otherwise they will do exactly the same to the next one. They need to see players leaving rather than the manager so the message is rammed home that they can’t just down tools every time they feel like it. We need to stick with Silva and let him fix some of the problems we have in the playing squad. There’s a rotten core that needs flushing out. Schneiderlin, Keane, Baines, Siggurdson, Gueye, Jagielka, Walcott all need moving on and that’s before we even get to the clowns who are out on loan.

But that doesn't account for the way the team is set up or the organisation, particularly from set pieces mate.

 

[Saint Domingo]

To be fair we played some outstanding football in Roberto’s First season too, but we played some absolute dross too. The majority of Moyes tenure we played with grit and attitude and little else. So many away games where he went to draw 0-0 or avoid a drubbing. I always recall being sat in the Stadium of Light in Benfica on a night of heavy rainfall and lightening and then seeing the most turgid display of football I’ve witnessed for many many years. I swear we had four right-backs and nine defensive players that night and were totally dismantled by, to be fair, a quality Benfica side with the likes of Oscar Cardoza, Angel di Maria, Saviola, Luiz, Aimar etc. We had injuries but it summed up Moyes defeatist attitude in one foul night to me.
He gets categorised as a dinosaur because his best days were many seasons ago and he failed miserably at United, Bilbao and everywhere else he rocked up. What worked in 2004 won’t work in 2019.

That Benfica example is ridiculous. We had a team of kids out due to injuries. They had a team containing Di Maria Cardozo Ramires David Luiz Aimar. We took a battering yes but it is exactly this sort of view of the Moyes period that seems to have become Mai stream despite it being completely untrue. ‘Grit and attitude but little else’. We don’t even have those two attributes anymore but it completely ignores the fact that most of the players Moyes played Pienaar Arteta Osman Baines Coleman Lescott Yakutia Donovan were in no way players who relied on physicality and stayed in the team a long time precisely because they were technically good.

 

[4737carlin]

Bring in another manager already is madness. New manager takes over and what if he loses 5 out of 7 games then everyone will be calling for another new manager? Madness.

Not unless they bring in a manager who already showed he was a unprofessional failure.
We never should of gone near him, Sam had 12 months left, too much instability is never going to help, he easily could of seen that out.

 

[Khalekan]

There hasn't been one stand out moment this season. Pure unadulterated tosh.

Don’t talk rot, Tim.

We have had “one stand out moment”.

It was provided by a black cat yesterday.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I’m backing Silva, not judging him on this season. For me it’s a crap team with no foundation before he arrived. We have bought well but the job is more difficult than one window can resolve.

I would like to see us give him the opportunity to turn us around.

Realising a load of people want a new manager, but who could achieve anything with this squad? I don’t think anyone could get more out of them. There’s too much crap in the squad to realistically expect us to beat the likes of Wolves and the West Ham’s of the prem as we don’t have the correct players for his system.

He has the players to clear the odd free kick properly though. Why do his fans always ignore his massive defensive problem? Better players won't sort out his organisation skills and defensive coaching.

 

[davids]

We can’t let the players fire another manager otherwise they will do exactly the same to the next one. They need to see players leaving rather than the manager so the message is rammed home that they can’t just down tools every time they feel like it. We need to stick with Silva and let him fix some of the problems we have in the playing squad. There’s a rotten core that needs flushing out. Schneiderlin, Keane, Baines, Siggurdson, Gueye, Jagielka, Walcott all need moving on and that’s before we even get to the clowns who are out on loan.

A manager with any spine would rip them a new one after the performances they are putting in,yet his motivational style would appear to be the arm on the shoulder and a " come on it'll all be okay". The players will get away with what they are allowed to get away with. We all know Goodison well enough to know that whatever the result if the team give 100% they'll get a response from the crowd. If Silva isn't aware of that he shouldn't be here.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Funny how the rotten core changes all the time.

Under RM it was Howard, Eto'o, Distin and Baines

Under Koeman it was Barkley, Rom, Mirallas and Williams

Now under Silva its Gylfi, Schnerderlin and Jags.


Maybe just maybe all those players were being coached by loser managers who are absolutely garbage?

The idea that Tim Howard was somehow part of a “rotten core” always struck me as absolutely nonsensical.

 

[hktoffee]

I didn’t care for Martinez at all. But if you can’t look at the dross we had yesterday and can’t see it’s a huge regression from the squad we had under him then more fool you. The likes of Cleverly and Delefeou would of added something yesterday. Even if it was to stop the rot.

It’s the way how everything being setup. It’s the manager’s tactics. In terms of individual quality. Sigurdsson is better than Cleverley. Richarlison is better than Del. Cleverley and Del won’t change anything. It’s delusion of the highest order to think they will help out the current squad yesterday.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

A manager with any spine would rip them a new one after the performances they are putting in,yet his motivational style would appear to be the arm on the shoulder and a " come on it'll all be okay". The players will get away with what they are allowed to get away with. We all know Goodison well enough to know that whatever the result if the team give 100% they'll get a response from the crowd. If Silva isn't aware of that he shouldn't be here.

Seems more of a passive shrug of the shoulders to me!

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

It’s the way how everything being setup. It’s the manager’s tactics. In terms of individual quality. Sigurdsson is better than Cleverley. Richarlison is better than Del. Cleverley and Del won’t change anything. It’s delusion of the highest order to think they will help out the current squad yesterday.

Disagree about Del - the problem he always seemed to have to me is he just lacks stamina. Very skillful player

 

[davids]

He has the players to clear the odd free kick properly though. Why do his fans always ignore his massive defensive problem? Better players won't sort out his organisation skills and defensive coaching.

More intelligent players might help.Zonal marking requires awareness to work.When it's obvious your defence don't have that you need to be able to go to a system they can understand. He has no other system it would appear.