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2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

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I just think it is wrong - an example of adding more needlessly bureaucracy. The manager should be number one in my opinion.

The old fashioned, all encompassing football manager doesn't exist anymore.

You need a structure in place so the manager can be replaced without huge upheaval. We are a mess because we keep appointing managers who have completely different ideas and that's why we have a total mish mash of a squad.

We are actually far too late in getting the right DOF.
 
Huddersfield, Newcastle, West Ham, Southampton. We've been underperforming all season. Those teams are woeful. Hell, we BARELY beat Cardiff ffs.

But all teams slip up. City slipped up the other week, twice. Newcastle came in our bad run... We beat Southampton. Yes, I know we lost on pens in the cup, but taking league into account, we beat them.

Also, I posted the stats earlier about the Cardiff game, mate. We absolutely dominated. 70%, 16 shots, 8 on target. Something like that. Saying we barely beat them isn't correct. Not once did we look in danger of not winning that game (as we shouldn't, btw).

We are underperforming at the moment, but this time last month, we were sixth. We weren't underperforming at that point, regardless of one or two slip ups.
 
I just think it is wrong - an example of adding more needlessly bureaucracy. The manager should be number one in my opinion.
Think that's a terrible idea as shown by Koeman. We had the idea right in Martinez, just terribly wrong manager. Went almost literally the opposite direction with Koeman, now we are back to kind of Martinez. The IDEA of a DoF is that they can keep the "ethos" and hire a manager along the lines whilst keeping the idea of how they want to play alive.
 
The old fashioned, all encompassing football manager doesn't exist anymore.

You need a structure in place so the manager can be replaced without huge upheaval. We are a mess because we keep appointing managers who have completely different ideas and that's why we have a total mish mash of a squad.

We are actually far too late in getting the right DOF.
I think that’s arguable. If you find a good coach who is willing to be a proper manager it is a better model in my view. The DOF role means the head coach is always expendable and has less leverage.
 

I think you've misinterpreted my point on fatigue.

Of course the fatigue is real. My point is that it's not a valid excuse because our opponents have had equally short turnarounds. They've dug deeper than our players and shown more strength of character and that's not good enough.

I don't know what the answer is for Silva. The key issue I see is the tempo and intensity of our play. It's extremely lacklustre and so very slow. If we lack the quality like today, then we are properly screwed because there was no intensity whatsoever. We need the aggression and intensity in our play every week so there is less of a drop off on a bad day.

If certain players don't deliver then they shouldn't play, and should be told to find new clubs in the summer. The time for patience and sentimentality with players should be over. It's time to hold them accountable.

Okay, i get you there, it's not an excuse. Leicester looked leggy today, but took their chance. I will say that they haven't had equally as short turnarounds though - we have played more games in less minutes than anyone else, with Spurs next up. Spurs had their crap result too, remember. But yes, I firmly agree it is no excuse for bad displays. It is however a reason why rotation is required.

I agree on the point about tempo. Against Burnley we were quick and incisive and everything this team should be. Had a shaky spell but that will happen, until we become a better unit. In the last two games we haven't shown it which is a huge disappointment. The frustration - and I think perfectly fair criticism - of Silva would then be that he hasn't done enough to counter that, and his tactics/subs have been dreadful.
 
Think that's a terrible idea as shown by Koeman. We had the idea right in Martinez, just terribly wrong manager. Went almost literally the opposite direction with Koeman, now we are back to kind of Martinez. The IDEA of a DoF is that they can keep the "ethos" and hire a manager along the lines whilst keeping the idea of how they want to play alive.
But you guarantee high managerial turnover. I think Man U under Ferguson worked better than any of the DOF clubs over here.

Also the coach has less authority - players can run off to moan to the DOF like at Madrid, etc to get rid of him
 
We've grown to almost accept mediocrity and not being 'up' there with the media-favoured 'big six' .

This is what needs to stop.

There is no Sky Six. There are no media darlings. Certainly not in the way it’s intimated by many on here. They get the most coverage because they play the best togger. They have the best players. They get the most live games because nobody wants to see Burnley vs Huddersfield outside of Burnley and Huddersfield fans. The crying that they get preferential treatment, pointing to anecdotal incidents, means absolutely nothing and gets us absolutely nowhere.

It used to be a big four. Now it’s a big six. The argument that they get preferential treatment and have bought their places would hold more water if:

A) Spurs weren’t in there
B) We hadn’t now spent comparative amounts.

We CAN make it a big seven. I firmly believe we can. But there needs to be a mindset shift amongst the fans as well as in the boardroom. That will absolutely transfer onto the players. Right now, we live that “Everton, that” mentality and it does hold us back. The last time we had any sort of identity as a team was under Moyes, when no team enjoyed playing us and every top team hated coming to Goodison.

That’s what we need to be building towards again. I didn’t think Silva was the answer at the time and I don’t think he is now, but it only really matters what Mosh, Brands and BK think. Personally, I would be shocked if they aren’t already putting feelers out to identify potential alternatives / more suitable candidates with a view to giving them the remainder of this season to assess the team prior to a clearout in the summer.

Too good to go down, not good enough to achieve meaningful progress. That’s a free hit for anyone coming in.
 
But you guarantee high managerial turnover. I think Man U under Ferguson worked better than any of the DOF clubs over here.
You don't if they have results. How does a club go from Martinez' a) counter attacking massive pace based attack to b) Martinez possession but not do anything to c) Koeman's grock in the middle and hit crosses to d) FSA to e) Silva's....something?

It's not a logica progression. A DoF goes from A to whatever is next and avoid all the middle becaue A is what he wants. So HE makes sure that they hire a manager who says "yep, that is my style" and follows through with it.
 
You don't if they have results. How does a club go from Martinez' a) counter attacking massive pace based attack to b) Martinez possession but not do anything to c) Koeman's grock in the middle and hit crosses to d) FSA to e) Silva's....something?

It's not a logica progression. A DoF goes from A to whatever is next and avoid all the middle becaue A is what he wants. So HE makes sure that they hire a manager who says "yep, that is my style" and follows through with it.
Hiring managers due to their personal qualities and success rather than due to a certain style of play would be a start. Way too much stock is put on playing a certain way over just finding a winning strategy nowadays. This is sport, not improvisational dance!
 

Hiring managers due to their personal qualities and success rather than due to a certain style of play would be a start. Way too much stock is put on playing a certain way over just finding a winning strategy nowadays. This is sport, not improvisational dance!
Again, it's the combo. Liverpool didn't rip things up from Rogers to Klopp. They went and found a BETTER version. You look at style of play and then start at the top.

It's the idea that "who the hell wants Mourinho" considering he's one of the most negative managers in the game these days after trying to be expansive.

It's not really a difficult concept, it's continuity.
 
Again, it's the combo. Liverpool didn't rip things up from Rogers to Klopp. They went and found a BETTER version. You look at style of play and then start at the top.

It's the idea that "who the hell wants Mourinho" considering he's one of the most negative managers in the game these days after trying to be expansive.

It's not really a difficult concept, it's continuity.
A contrarian approach often pays dividends- perhaps with everyone wanting to play more continental, perhaps a cunning approach would be a more direct style?
 
I watched silvas post match interviewing sky and could barely understand what he was saying even with the volume turned up. Seemed like he was mumbling the whole time. Considering how things are going on the pitch I’m wondering if the players have the same problem..
 

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