2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[Stan Lee Park]

I mean why?

That team should be more than capable of beating Lincoln at home and isn't even far off from the first team that was starting before Gomes got fit?

Needs to play his strongest team. not one that is "more than capable" of winning. Why would any Evertonian want anything less?

 

[ToffeeTim]

And because he was an odious crook who had pissed off the entire fanbase with his arrogance. Look, I have no idea if Silva has the minerals to make a success of Everton, but I can still see that he’s trying to play football the right way (unlike the last fella). Personally I’m not willing to keep on giving these players a free pass, I saw too many of them underperform again today and while I can forgive mistakes, there was a lot of lads just not taking enough care of the ball.

I want success now. I can’t be arsed with going into work and listen to the Red gloat while I’ve got nothing. I can’t be arsed with spending time and money to go to the match and watch us turn in woeful performances every other week. But it is what it is. As someone else said, we can’t keep flipping the table every season. The only option is to give this time.

These players are as big a problem as any manager we've had. They are overpaid gutless wastes of space in the most part.

If we were as ruthless with the frauds wearing the blue shirt every week as we are with managers then we might get somewhere.

I saw players going through the motions today. They have no fear of losing. It doesn't even look like they really care, win, lose or draw. It's almost soul destroying how we've allowed ourselves to become the modern football players dream club. Massive wages, but no pressure to succeed. A proper shambles.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Brands is the continuity.

We've took a punt on Silva - he has no credentials, really. Currently all he's proving is he wins 3 in every 10 games, the same as he did with Watford and Hull.

Let's see how he does, it's too early to make a call on him.

 

[BlueToff]

It’s criticism after criticism because we are looking worse and worse.

It’s normal for people to say bad things when we look bad.

I agree with that but it's been criticism after criticism in the seeming hope he's gonna get sacked. He just isn't, is he?

I mean, if it turns into an unmitigated disaster (which as bad as our current run is, surely the season isn't...) then he'll deserve to go. If there looks to be no way out of this run of form.

But I think we've shown signs, however glimpsing, that there's the stems of a decent team here. We're playing badly at the moment and it isn't all down to the manager, even though he'll ultimately be responsible.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Brands is the continuity.

We've took a punt on Silva - he has no credentials, really. Currently all he's proving is he wins 3 in every 10 games, the same as he did with Watford and Hull.

Let's see how he does, it's too early to make a call on him.

To add - his record at relegated Hull was marginally better than his record at Everton.

We've no blind loyalty to Silva just because of Koeman or Allardyce scars.

He either performs or he doesn't. If he doesn't Brands should have no hesitation in replacing him.

But again - far too early. Unless there's a Conte willing to come to us, and there isn't - it's a non debate.

 

[D410]

Very good points made here.
Over time, sadly, we have become accustomed to let downs... players, managers, the BoD, and yes, the fans on the terraces.
We've grown to almost accept mediocrity and not being 'up' there with the media-favoured 'big six'.
The whole mindset around the club has to change and it starts at the top.
Unless the Board refuse to accept any performance or results - on and off the field - that do not meet the very highest standards, we're cream crackered.
But the Board needs to set the standards that must be met - on and off the field - and communicate everything clearly at and to all levels within the club.
We've got a motto that means "Nothing but the Best" - the time we started to live up to that mantra has never been so right !!!

Great Post

It,s clear that the only thing that binds the club together is money, sentimentally and people playing football manager at the board level.

Culture, team-belief and leadership can never be built sustainably on money and wages alone.

There are no standards at the club from top to bottom just empty words and slogans - everyone has been going through the motions for decades.

 

[efcforever]

Exactly this Dave....

We need a period of stability, swapping now is not the way forward. Why do people insist on instant success? When we sacked BFS all I heard was the media slagging us off as we don’t know what we want.....in some ways they are right

Yes we want success, yes we want to win, yes we want to be in the top 4 but in reality

We are not a top 4 team, we are not an attractive option, we are not a media darling

We need to build from the bottom, after years of sustainability under Moyes we swapped 3 managers in a short period, we blew our first cash windfall and we had a manager in Koeman who decimated our club as he did at Valencia, then we brought in BFS for premiership survival, but in the process produced the worst football ever and I am 50 years old

Silva and Brands is a rebuilding process from the bottom, laying the foundations for progression. This WILL take more than 6 months and one transfer window.

Sacking him now is not the answer, the answer is patience, accepting that progress at this stage is not all about points, sometime you have to take steps back to move forward

Give this team a goal scorer , more creativity and we have a team...

In Brands I Trust, in Silva I Trust.......we have stalled but the evidence of clear progression is obvious.... we went to the Emirates and should of been 2 up but due to schoolboy finishing we fecked up, we went to Anfield and should of walked away with at least a draw.

Completely agree. It's frustrating at the moment but we will start to get better results if we have stability. Just need to patient and let Brands sort the squad out.

 

[BlueToff]

Come on mate, we can't do anything other than criticize. It's a forum. It's about discussing the manager who, you have to admit, has huge question marks at the moment and in his Premier League career. As objective as you can be, Silva is underperforming. You know it, I know it, GOD help us if Moshiri doesn't know it. He and the team have been for months. The sooner he can figure out what he/they are doing wrong the faster we can get on to next season. But he doesn't look capable of that and hasn't in his career here.

Agree in the main but the bit in bold is where I can't agree.

This time last month we were - believe it or not - sixth, heading into what turned out to be a decisive derby (as it stands) that we actually played really well in only to cock up.

So no, we haven't been underperforming for months. We've had a bad month that has ironically enough included our biggest away win in the Premier League era.

We're inconsistent, but need time - as a team - to overcome those inconsistencies. So calls for sack are just silly, unless it becomes untenable (and I know we had the chat of just when we both think that point may be earlier).

We are tenth. Tomorrow, we will be 11th because of how the fixtures have panned out, possibly 12th. It isn't good enough, no, but we're where we are because we're a very average side in a group of a load of other average, inconsistent sides, one of which we lost to today because they have an excellent striker - something we do not possess (although not that that would definitely solve the problems we have).

 

[BlueToff]

Just watched it on BBC, couldn't make much sense of it. He says something about the players not being able to do the simple things.

He basically said that it was a crap performance and that neither side deserved to win, but Leicester took their chance.

He said our players couldn't do the simple things (easy passes etc) today and so that was no basis for a good performance.

 

[ijjysmith]

I agree with that but it's been criticism after criticism in the seeming hope he's gonna get sacked. He just isn't, is he?

I mean, if it turns into an unmitigated disaster (which as bad as our current run is, surely the season isn't...) then he'll deserve to go. If there looks to be no way out of this run of form.

But I think we've shown signs, however glimpsing, that there's the stems of a decent team here. We're playing badly at the moment and it isn't all down to the manager, even though he'll ultimately be responsible.

I’ve not seen many say they want him sacked to be fair. Which is a relief as it simply ain’t happening.

Sadly I’m not seeing those glimpses you’re seeing.

 

[BlueToff]

Needs to play his strongest team. not one that is "more than capable" of winning. Why would any Evertonian want anything less?

He played our strongest team available (or close to it) today and we were crap.

People keep slating our display today, yet get all angry when people say that there should be changes for Lincoln?

None of the players that played today did well enough to guarantee their places in the next game - whether league or cup - bar maybe Gueye and Kenny.

So if he makes changes, which he has to do because our players are knackered (we have played more games in a quicker turnaround than anyone else, slightly more than Spurs - who are so far ahead of us it's untrue yet they still cocked up against Wolves) and because they are knackered it's meaning that it's just compounding the bad form we're already in.

So I have no issues if he makes 8 changes on Saturday because frankly 8 outfield players today were hopeless.

 

[DanEFC92]

I’ve not seen many say they want him sacked to be fair. Which is a relief as it simply ain’t happening.

Sadly I’m not seeing those glimpses you’re seeing.

Camp 'Don't want him sacked, but far from convinced' here.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Agree in the main but the bit in bold is where I can't agree.

This time last month we were - believe it or not - sixth, heading into what turned out to be a decisive derby (as it stands) that we actually played really well in only to cock up.

So no, we haven't been underperforming for months. We've had a bad month that has ironically enough included our biggest away win in the Premier League era.

We're inconsistent, but need time - as a team - to overcome those inconsistencies. So calls for sack are just silly, unless it becomes untenable (and I know we had the chat of just when we both think that point may be earlier).

We are tenth. Tomorrow, we will be 11th because of how the fixtures have panned out, possibly 12th. It isn't good enough, no, but we're where we are because we're a very average side in a group of a load of other average, inconsistent sides, one of which we lost to today because they have an excellent striker - something we do not possess (although not that that would definitely solve the problems we have).

I'm pretty concerned at how we have capitulated since the derby.

Managers earn their corn in ensuring their team bounces back quickly. We've completely fallen apart. The players can't be trusted either to be fair. They will be loving the fact they can blame it all on that one moment.

 

[BlueToff]

I’ve not seen many say they want him sacked to be fair. Which is a relief as it simply ain’t happening.

Sadly I’m not seeing those glimpses you’re seeing.

Well we just beat Burnley 5-1 six days ago and, as bad as Burnley have been, that isn't just luck, mate. They beat West Ham (the almighty Pellegrini included) 2-0 a few days later and they played well, as bad as West Ham were (again, an inconsistent side in the same place as us).

We have the likes of Digne who is showing to be an excellent player, while Gomes - even though he looks knackered at the minute - is quality.

We know Richarlison's talents, we know Bernard has that magic in him to create something out of nothing (just as he did today by setting up a tap in from a yard out that Calvert-Lewin decided not to go for...).

It's not all rosy, and there's definite issues. But there's also definite positives. We're just a very inconsistent side who are struggling with a current backlog of games and - at the moment - the manager seemingly not trusting his players/himself to stick to a system. He needs to get that back because our best run came when we had a settled side.

 

[JL94]

He will get this season. I am not confident at all. The defending is awful and zonal does not work. We are crap at defending set pieces and while in attack, we wasted almost every opportunity when getting free kicks and corner kicks. We scored about 4 in 21 games.

Agree with set pieces, don't think he works on it as much as he should, especially in defence.

His biggest 3 issues are, Striker, Right Back and sorting out the silly blunders in defence