2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[ToffeeTim]

A bit like now?

One hammering yes.

Everyone is allowed one in my book.

 

[Frang]

SEAN DYCHE IN

just


wow

 

[vinvinvin]

Seem to recall that Brands backed one of the managers at his previous club during a winless run similar to the one we are currently on and I think he would be right to do the same with Silva as well. We've got too many players who are passengers and aren't willing to take responsibility and we need to reset the balance of power in the dressing room - the attitude should be that if you don't want to be here then you will be moved on and replaced by someone who will play for the manager & club, if we keep sacking managers then we'll never get out of this rut.

 

[banno]

Yet he got 8th not bottom half finish.

Results speak in the end for every manager.

well obviously not for Allardyce. Anti football was the main reason he didn't keep his job. We were safe in January under Allardyce and we were all expected a different (better) approach to games. We were dreaming because he is just a survivalist. He doesn't make teams better (football wise) he just makes them dogged and horrible.

 

[pedro1976]

Id be pretty upset if I did a good job and got sacked knowing the incoming manager has just about none of my credentials.

If silva had come in when Alladyce did last season with his `we play one way' philosophy lol we very realistically could have gone down.

With 100m to spend in the summer and some loans does anyone seriously think BFS would not have bought fast, attack based players and centre forwards.

The mind boggles. HE had to get us organised defensively to stay up. This seasons job would have been to improve our defence further and make attacking aquisitions that would have allowed us to have more possession and/or serious pace/movement so we became a counter attacking team. We would have graduall built on 8th place to challenge around 5/6th.

Instead we are nowhere, We have gone backwards defensively, not moving the ball effectively or prettily and lack any sort of goal threat unless the ball falls to the feet of Gylfi/Richarl close to goal.

No matter how you dress it up Silva has not improved any aspect of our club bar possession stats.

I think results will pick up naturally just because we have some decent players but that could well see us finish 8/9th and blinker us to Silvas shortcomings in every aspect of management.

I have not seen him able to motivate a team after a poor result, change tactically to good effect in any game or use substitutions well. Pickford, Coleman, Walcott, Toshun nd Davies have all gone backwards under him. Only DCL and to a monor extent Keane (give me stength) have improved. Whatever `press' style he uses is a mystery to me.

Its telling that even the BFS haters admit we would have more points this season under him and that those who think he is a good manager think he would have substantially more points and progressing the club forward not backwards.

More points under Sam? Are you on the wind up.

BFS could have guaranteed us 5th spot for the next 10 years and I wouldn't want him.

1. His brand of football is awful. The worst I've seen at Everton.

2. He spent £45m on 2 players who have been awful.

3. He has no respect for the fans or the club


Everton as a club have been saddled with mediocrity for years yet here you care telling us we should have given allardyce time and money?

Liverpool are where they are because they sacked managers you would have been happy with...

 

[Kev The Rat]

Just listened to that.

He just can`t let go of the fact that he got sacked can he !!!

why should he? he got shafted for an inferior manager.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Id be pretty upset if I did a good job and got sacked knowing the incoming manager has just about none of my credentials.

If silva had come in when Alladyce did last season with his `we play one way' philosophy lol we very realistically could have gone down.

With 100m to spend in the summer and some loans does anyone seriously think BFS would not have bought fast, attack based players and centre forwards.

The mind boggles. HE had to get us organised defensively to stay up. This seasons job would have been to improve our defence further and make attacking aquisitions that would have allowed us to have more possession and/or serious pace/movement so we became a counter attacking team. We would have graduall built on 8th place to challenge around 5/6th.

Instead we are nowhere, We have gone backwards defensively, not moving the ball effectively or prettily and lack any sort of goal threat unless the ball falls to the feet of Gylfi/Richarl close to goal.

No matter how you dress it up Silva has not improved any aspect of our club bar possession stats.

I think results will pick up naturally just because we have some decent players but that could well see us finish 8/9th and blinker us to Silvas shortcomings in every aspect of management.

I have not seen him able to motivate a team after a poor result, change tactically to good effect in any game or use substitutions well. Pickford, Coleman, Walcott, Toshun nd Davies have all gone backwards under him. Only DCL and to a monor extent Keane (give me stength) have improved. Whatever `press' style he uses is a mystery to me.

Its telling that even the BFS haters admit we would have more points this season under him and that those who think he is a good manager think he would have substantially more points and progressing the club forward not backwards.

this right here is the post of the year so far.

 

[KaiserEFC]

Just listened to that.

He just can`t let go of the fact that he got sacked can he !!!

He’s the most hated and generally unpopular Everton manager in recent times. He also made many big Evertonians choose to stop going to the game.

His opinion doesn’t matter.

 

[pedro1976]

If anyone ever needs to understand why we as a club haven't won a thing in near 25 years they just need to read this thread.

SAM ALLARDYCE is being afforded sympathy..... the fat gravy guzzling no mark who we paid £9m to for serving garbage football is being allowed to spew his bile on radio and fans are saying he has a point.

Our fans are turning into the definition of losers.... "oh he's quite good.... he never got relegated"....have a word FFS.

If Silva isn't the man then we move on and hire another.... why look back to an awful manager? Cos Its a losers mentality.

The RS sacked King Kenny despite winning a trophy and finishing 7th..... good for them!!! They knew what they wanted and what they didn't want. Some of our lot would be saying "get Hodgson back"

Our fans are the reason the media take pot shots at us.... it's ok for the mancs to sack mourinho despite winning 3 or 4 trophies but Everton must endure a fraudulent disprectful dinosaur and accept that he is our level??? Ffs

 

[PhilM]

Yeh that's true, Gueye and Kenny played well and I'd have them both in on Saturday.

Then again, Gueye could be a bit defunct against a team that we have loads of the ball against, but our options in midfield other than that just don't seem good enough, unless we did Gylfi deeper - and then that leaves big gaping holes in the number 10 position or. if we play 4-4-2, a 20 yard gap between midfield and attack

Kenny is obviously fresh and surprisingly Gueye's injury appears to have helped him slightly as he looks fresh and eager, so for me I'd include them both.

We have the luxury of Mina as well and Calvert-Lewin hasn't played too many games, so that's four semi-regular inclusions to the XI who could/should start.

 

[pedro1976]

why should he? he got shafted for an inferior manager.

Inferior? Allardyce is a far worse manager than Silva.

Has our recent run been bittersweet for you?

Are you a Liverpool fan btw? Or do t you generally care about Everton?

 

[msb]

Id be pretty upset if I did a good job and got sacked knowing the incoming manager has just about none of my credentials.

Holy cow ...did a good job .... honestly did you ever watch us under that oaf?

 

[Deulofeumygod]

I was impressed with everything pre the pick calamity. We were finally competing with the big teams and having a go and we’re unlucky/a striker away from getting points against all but spurs which is done feat in only a few months. We Showed flashes of what was to come with neat, one touch, attacking football and players we had bought were being bedded in correctly (unlike last season) and starting to show their quality.

We have been poor since the pick calamity which could be a coincidence but the players seem bereft of confidence, tired and the team has been chopped and changed too much because of this which has all led to poor performances.

I don’t blame silva. The difference in Football is on the whole night and day.

Allardyce should never have been let near our club.

We lack strength in depth, rely on Gomes, siggy and Rico to win us games and teams have already worked this out.

I would be shocked if we didn’t get a couple in in jan because silva must see he needs it.

 

[PhilM]

Yet he got 8th not bottom half finish.

Results speak in the end for every manager.

Yes they do and results shouldn't be ignored, that'd be naive, but as I've mentioned earlier I think we have to be realistic and compare results over the long-term.

Koeman finished seventh in his first season which seemed great, although in hindsight we had some really barren spots and the football wasn't the best.

Sam got us eighth yet once again the football was turgid: the worst since the 90s. If we're comparing simply against that, then we're not interested in progression.

To challenge against the best teams - I mean consistently challenge - we have a long-haul revamp of the squad, the style and the way the club operates.

I'm not definitely advocating that Silva is the man, although I hope he is, rather my point is that we need to be realistic and realise it'll take time - and give time!

Brands is the man who will ultimately play the key role in progression as he is hopefully be the architect of our journey. If he doesn't think Silva is the man, then...

If we just want to be consistently below the top six but above the rest then I'm sure that's possible, but for me there's no point in that. So there'll be ups and downs!

 

[Steve0]

If we never have any patience in any manager then what's the point? Times have changed yada yada but if Man Utd never persevered with Ferguson they'd have never been as successful as they were. (not comparing Silva to Ferguson, obviously)

Success never has been and never will be instant. If managers keep coming and going there'll will eventually be none left to take the role.

Anyhow I blame it all on @Steve0 and his relentless rantings about Liverpool going to fail etc etc. He is a jinx and putting a curse on us.

Been right for nearly 30 years tbh.

The rot starts tomorrow night. Keep the faith.