Marco Silva

[daza_1973]

It's wrong mate. Someones just pointed out an era. I'm tryna find the link were I got that. That's fooked me right off.

So we need someone to post the proper ones.

GOT - FAKE NEWS Shocker !!!
still don't want him like

 

[Neiler]

Let’s hope no bigger clubs show an interest in him while he’s managing us then..

Moyes managed to not fall to bits even when he knew he was jumping ship like.

It’s inevitable if he’s successful, likewise if he’s not he get the bullet, thats the game really.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

But actually based on a true story.

I think the more true narrative was that they got worn out. They had zero depth. Zero.

 

[Neiler]

Being in the CL spots in November doesn't mean that's where they'll finish, look at Burnley.

The fact that his head got turned so quickly into his new job HAS to be a concern, there's every chance he would do the same to us.

Yes I am definitely blaming him for being unprofessional and not accepting that he was under contract while letting his team completely capitulate because he'd shown them his heart wasn't in it and he wasn't there for the long term.

That’s fair enough mate, I think your on the wrong road there with the moral high ground. Footballs not the game for you if you get that disappointed by those involved wanting to move on to progress and not respecting a contract. He’s hardly breaking new ground there, you’d find it hard to find anyone in football who you couldn’t accuse of the same thing, unless they are gash.

 

[Mozza1987]

Window opens this week am I right?

Yep

 

[4737carlin]

As if were even looking at this fella, WTF is up with Moshiri? Think he spent too much time at Arsenal with no say on things, seems clueless on the business of football, no wonder he didnt notice we never replaced Lukaku, needs to stick to steel

 

[Neiler]

I think the more true narrative was that they got worn out. They had zero depth. Zero.

Nah I’d say he downed tools or rather worked to rule, they went of a cliff!

 

[meagher94]

Watford 3-3 Liverpool
Bournemouth 0-2 Watford
Watford 0-0 Brighton
Saints 0-2 Watford
Watford 0-6 Man City
Swansea 1-2 Watford
West Brom 2-2 Watford
Watford 2-1 Arsenal
( Evertons interest was around about here )
Chelsea 4-2 Watford
Watford 0-1 Stoke
Everton 3-2 Watford
Watford 2-0 West Ham
Newcastle 0-3 Watford
Watford 2-4 Man Utd
Watford 1-1 Spurs
Burnley 1-0 Watford
Palace 2-1 Watford
Watford 1-4 Huddersfield
Brighton 1-0 Watford
Watford 2-1 Leicester
Swansea 2-1 Watford
They drew 2 and lost 2 of next 4 and he was sacked but these are the real results @Debunkology @roydo @Kev The Rat @meagher94

Edit - also they got 13 points out of 34 when they sacked him and 9 of those points were in the first 4 games after his sacking

Just beat me!

@roydo

Marco Silva’s Watford record (League only)

Pre-Everton interest

(H) Liverpool DRAW 3-3
(A) Bournemouth WIN 2-0
(H) Brighton DRAW 0-0
(A) Southampton WIN 2-0
(H) City LOSS 6-0
(A) Swansea WIN 2-1
(A) West Brom DRAW 2-2
(H) Arsenal WIN 2-1
(A) Chelsea LOSS 4-2
(H) Stoke LOSS 1-0
(A) Everton LOSS 3-2
(H) West Ham WIN 2-0

5 Wins, 3 Draws, 4 Losses, 42% wins

It was around this time I think speculation really heated up but not sure:

(A) Newcastle WIN 3-0
(H) Utd LOSS 4-2
(H) Spurs DRAW 1-1
(A) Burnley LOSS 1-0
(A) Palace LOSS 2-1
(H) Huddersfield LOSS 4-1
(A) Brighton LOSS 1-0
(H) Leicester WIN 2-1
(H) Swansea LOSS 2-1
(A) City LOSS 3-1
(H) Southampton DRAW 2-2
(A) Leicester LOSS 2-0

2 Wins, 2 Draws, 8 Losses 17% wins

For the record he lost his only Carabao Cup game against Bristol, then won his only FA Cup game against Bristol again.

 

[Loadsofchemistry]

A lot is made about how Watford went awry after we approached him and turned his head, but is it not more likely the “new manager bounce”finished instead?

 

[Blues Harp]

Window opens this week am I right?

EFC.........lollollollollollol

 

[davek]

Not sure I agree with this. Poch? Mourinho? Alex Ferguson? Conte? Klopp? Wenger? Pep? Just to name a few there who came to the league with no experience.

Pochettino didn't have Southampton in a high league position IIRC; Ferguson stunk the place out in his first season; Guardiola did nothing first season. But also comparing top managers going into mega-funded clubs is a bit apples and pears in comparison with our situation of looking for a decent manager who'll have limited funds.

 

[maccavennie]

Just beat me!

@roydo

Marco Silva’s Watford record (League only)

Pre-Everton interest

(H) Liverpool DRAW 3-3
(A) Bournemouth WIN 2-0
(H) Brighton DRAW 0-0
(A) Southampton WIN 2-0
(H) City LOSS 6-0
(A) Swansea WIN 2-1
(A) West Brom DRAW 2-2
(H) Arsenal WIN 2-1
(A) Chelsea LOSS 4-2
(H) Stoke LOSS 1-0
(A) Everton LOSS 3-2
(H) West Ham WIN 2-0

5 Wins, 3 Draws, 4 Losses, 42% wins

It was around this time I think speculation really heated up but not sure:

(A) Newcastle WIN 3-0
(H) Utd LOSS 4-2
(H) Spurs DRAW 1-1
(A) Burnley LOSS 1-0
(A) Palace LOSS 2-1
(H) Huddersfield LOSS 4-1
(A) Brighton LOSS 1-0
(H) Leicester WIN 2-1
(H) Swansea LOSS 2-1
(A) City LOSS 3-1
(H) Southampton DRAW 2-2
(A) Leicester LOSS 2-0

2 Wins, 2 Draws, 8 Losses 17% wins

For the record he lost his only Carabao Cup game against Bristol, then won his only FA Cup game against Bristol again.

There's a spell there just after the mancs beat them that they seemed to really struggle with goals. I wonder if that's when Richarlisons form took a massive dip. Deeney certainly wasn't slotting and it looks like the goals dried up and in turn so did the results.

I remember when our interest was very public they best West Ham and Newcastle so it certainly wasn't a case of the players or him downing tools

Maybe they just weren't that good and he had them over achieving?

All opinions isn't it mate but I found it interesting when looking at the real results.

 

[Berenger]

Really? Think when he took over Hull, not many people knew that much about him or had even heard of him. Whereas Fonseca seems to have made quite a name for himself. Silva won a Portuguese Cup at Sporting before going to Olympiakos and winning their League (they’d also won it the previous 4 years) to qualify for his one and only season in the Champions League. Finishishing 3rd and getting knocked out at the round of 32 of the Europa. Performed well?

On 31 May 2016, Fonseca moved abroad for the first time in his career, replacing legendary Mircea Lucescu (12 seasons) at the helm of FC Shakhtar Donetsk and signing a two-year contract at the Ukrainian Premier League side.[17][18] He won the national championship in his first two seasons, also winning the double in 2016–17 – which earned him the distinction as the league's best coach[19]– and reaching the round of 16of the 2017–18 UEFA Champions League[20] after finishing second in the group stage following a 2–1 home win over Premier League side Manchester City.

The description is quite different.

Hardly a dispassionate summary.

Neutral perspectives suggest there’s not much between them in terms of experience and performance. Prospective judgements may differ.

 

[Mozza1987]

Pochettino didn't have Southampton in a high league position IIRC; Ferguson stunk the place out in his first season; Guardiola did nothing first season. But also comparing top managers going into mega-funded clubs is a bit apples and pears in comparison with our situation of looking for a decent manager who'll have limited funds.

Sorry mate but Poch has been brilliant since coming over. Are you honestly going to say Ferguson stunk the place out in his first season after what he achieved? Poch didn’t have loads of money. Ferguson never to begin with. Wenger never had tons and look what he achieved. If you don’t take a risk sometimes then you miss out on these managers.

 

[Death]

..a major plus is that @davek prefers him. That must count a lot given the relatively peaceful place GOT will be for a season or two.

Yeah peaceful, just like the Martinez days.