2019/20 Marco Silva

[WeAreEvertonians]

Well that’s even less relevant, what on earth does Davies have to do with what I just posted about Sigurdsson?

This all started with you thinking you had some sort of authority on what Evertonians could and couldn't say about all things everton, I have pointed out where you're a massive hypocitr so you've resorted to asking the same question over and over. It's reeally not that hard, Sigurdsson 14 goals and 5 asssists and after one poor game you're gonna hammer him, Tom Davies done nothing for years andyone hammers him and they're part of the toxic fan base.

 

[MikeH72]

This all started with you thinking you had some sort of authority on what Evertonians could and couldn't say about all things everton, I have pointed out where you're a massive hypocitr so you've resorted to asking the same question over and over. It's reeally not that hard, Sigurdsson 14 goals and 5 asssists and after one poor game you're gonna hammer him, Tom Davies done nothing for years andyone hammers him and they're part of the toxic fan base.

You haven’t pointed out any hypocrisy whatsoever, in fact I’m not sure you understand the meaning of the word. I’m proper bored of you now anyway.

 

[Frang]

gotta love an international break

got over a week of this yet

*hunkers down

 

[WeAreEvertonians]

You haven’t pointed out any hypocrisy whatsoever, in fact I’m not sure you understand the meaning of the word. I’m proper bored of you now anyway.

I have and that is why you're bored, same way you resoted to accusing me of being a multi before aknowleding my point earlier. I'll look out for your hypocrisy in the coming months and point it out to you, Tom Davies is crap and will never make it at Everton BTW and wil never surpass Sigrdssons currents goals and assists, even if Gylfi never played for us again.

 

[Goat]

I have and that is why you're bored, same way you resoted to accusing me of being a multi before aknowleding my point earlier. I'll look out for your hypocrisy in the coming months and point it out to you, Tom Davies is crap and will never make it at Everton BTW and wil never surpass Sigrdssons currents goals and assists, even if Gylfi never played for us again.

Just a hunch, but im guessing you arent gonna be here long enough fam.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Who knew @mikeh72 had a stalker?

 

[Westend Blue]

On point one, it's my opinion that Howe's achievements outweigh Silva's. You evidently disagree. That doesn't make my opinion wrong.

On point two, you obviously haven't read my 2nd sentence properly. Check again and note the comma's. 'To then stay there, comfortably,'. He's stayed in the Premier League comfortably.

On point three, every manager makes poor signings over a 4 year period. Marco Silva signed the likes of Andre Gray, Brown Ideye, Kamil Grosicki and Will Hughes for over £40m.

Howe has also brought in the likes of Ake (£20m) Fraser (£400,000) Josh King (£3m) and Callum Wilson (£3m) and made a massive profit on players like Mousset, Ritchie and Mings.

In any case, he's spent a fraction of what everyone else has spent and got them in a position where now they're considered a steady mid-table team.

Coyle and Laudrup had one good season in the Premier League, they aren't in Howe's league. He's precisely the path to follow for young managers, to take a team from League One to a steady Premier League team across 5 years, without the resources generally required to even attempt it, is a hell of an achievement - I'm not sure why you'd attempt to knock it.

Forgetting a certain richarlison ?

 

[Arteta10]

Absolutely f'ing not.

If we seriously can't expect, as a football team, to be beating the sides in the bottom third of the table consistently, season after season, with any other outcome being seen as an unexpected 'freak' result happening once in a blue moon.. then where are we actually heading? how are we going to improve? how are we going to eventually hit top 4? how are we ever going to be considered a 'top' side again?

Mate we play in the premier league, not some tin pot league, its very very difficult to beat every side in the bottom half of the table home and away every week season after season. Not even teams who are supposedly ahead of us like Spurs, United, Chelsea do it. Yes Liverpool and City do it but as I said yesterday theyre the exception not the rule.

I dont really understand the point youre trying to make. Every fan of every team would like their team to win every week, of course they would. But its not cause to kick off and throw your dummy out the pram if your team cant win every single game because that very rarely happens minus big exceptions like liverpool and city

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

I'm not saying we should be beating everyone like they are mate as obviously that's daft as things stand... but what I would say is that I reckon we have the quality to beat at least a third of the teams in this league handily - probably even over half of them at home. A handful of those should be a maximum 6 points over a season no questions asked.

Simply put - we need to be consistantly beating teams and gaining maximum points where we're expected to, otherwise we're effectively throwing them away.

6 away wins and 9 home wins last season says we did exactly that.

 

[BernieH]

Top bickering lads, very mature.

 

[Jebus_lives]

At hull he had Harry Maguire and Andy Robertson as half of his defense and still shipped loads of goals.

It's his style of play which means which is why away from home especially the results are so poor.
Even at home teams take it to us and create clear cut chances.

The tactics for the opposition are simple, get 10 men behind the ball and counter attack when the time is right, your likely to get a 2 on 2 or 3 on 3 at the back because we have too many players pushed forward

Silva took over that Hull team that were on 13 points, had concerned 24 goals in 10 away games, were 22 matches without a clean sheet and scored 17 goals in 20 games.

He managed to win 6 and draw 3 in his remaining games with 4 clean sheets.

It's probably also worth pointing out that they signed Niasse in the middle of January and he was their joint second highest goal scorer for the season with 4.

 

[StuBarlow]

For me the jury is still out on him. I didn't agree with his appointment and thus far he's not filling me full of confidence.

That said I'm probably just jaded as I also didn't want Moyes, Smith, Martinez, Koeman or Allardyce either.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Forgetting a certain richarlison ?

No I didn't forget Richarlison, he just wasn't relevant to the argument.

The poster made the case that Howe must be a bad manager because he'd made (in that posters opinion) poor signings.

I argued that all managers, even the best ones, make poor signings in their time and Silva himself had also made very poor signings in his time, citing specific examples.

 

[Simon Buttle]

No I didn't forget Richarlison, he just wasn't relevant to the argument.

The poster made the case that Howe must be a bad manager because he'd made (in that posters opinion) poor signings.

I argued that all managers, even the best ones, make poor signings in their time and Silva himself had also made very poor signings in his time, citing specific examples.

Silva did'nt make any of those signings you mentioned though, they were all made by the Pozzo's or came from one of the other clubs under their wing, NO Watford manager has any say in what players they sign, that's been the case since Gino Pozzo bought the club.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Silva did'nt make any of those signings you mentioned though, they were all made by the Pozzo's or came from one of the other clubs under their wing, NO Watford manager has any say in what players they sign, that's been the case since Gino Pozzo bought the club.

How do you know with absolute certainty he didn't have any input in the signings at Watford?

Does Silva have any say in the signings here, mate? Does Howe have any say in the signings at Bournemouth?

Also, Silva signed Grosicki and Ideye before Watford.