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2019/20 Marco Silva

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nsno-chris said:
we have enough to certainly create clear cut chances, the majority of which is normally through clever movement across the front lines. And that’s my concern, is static and we create nothing because the game plan is out to the wings. Personnel have a massive part in this and having people like Gylfi who stands still limits and defence being pulled out position. The same with the wingers, they’re hugging the touch line rather than acting as inside forwards and giving the CBs another thing to worry about
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Issue he has is that the 2 cms he has left arent able to create (Davies / Schneiderlin)...

Then going wide to Walcott / Richarlison neither are creators.

The squad ia really limited.


Jonte said:
Erm, this was a short/sharp response to those who’ve started to get a little too carried away with the belated show of sympathy (IMHO) for Marco’s current predicament.

This guy’s a mercenary who walked away from a similar contract (shouldn’t contracts be binding?) at Watford, let’s not forget, to take up a more lucrative position with us, and who epitomises the unprincipled greedy member of the footballing fraternity to which we’ve all become accustomed.

So I’ve little sympathy.

But you read into it what you want, Mr. “I’ll just take the opposite tack.”

Anyway, shouldn’t you be out researching the next hidden gem from some footballing South American backwater, to try and impress us all with?
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Jonte said:
If he wants another job in the foreseeable, he would.
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Jonte said:
With Marco, I think it’s a case of ‘pot calling kettle’ when it comes to honouring a contract.
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Youre actually slating a manager for being a mercenary (walking away from a contract at Watford) when he has not shown any such characteristics.

Certainly he didnt walk away from Watford.

So youre either uninformed or just telling porky pies.

As for the South American player comment, perhaps you should stick to understanding things before posting about them lol


chippy1722 said:
There has to be progress over the period though, we’re in a worse position, with a worse squad and playing worse football.
Rodgers is 1 window into his plan and we’re in a worse position.
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Rodgers has Vardy + Madisson, Ndidi, Tielemans in the centre.

As i was saying to the leicester fan @FOXINPEACE before the season those 4 are better than any of our players in the same positions.

When you have no centre midfield and kids up front is a different timeframe for success.

evertonarntwe said:
people like me expect much more mate but we aren't stupid enough to expect anything that's unrealistic ( ie top 6 )

facts are facts though, with the squad he DOES have available he should be doing far better

it's silvas fault he has never won a single game when conceding first
it's silvas fault are results are so bad because 1) he picks the team and 2) he's not motivating the players to perform

look back at our only 2 good performances this season, wolves and west ham at home ( even the Watford and Southampton game I thought we were poor ) if we played like we did againsty them 2 most of the season we wouldn't be anywhere near the bottom 3, but he just cannot get a tune out of these players and that's ultimately down to him
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Totally agree with the stats. Cant hide behind them.

Imagine that we HAD to keep Silva for the duration of his contract, what would he need to do to get the team going?

For me no one would offer great improvement without new players.

Tipp blue said:
The players we have are much better than 16th, with the games we had to start the season this squad should be comfortably in the top 4 at the moment. Poor Tactics, Poor Formation and hopeless management is what has us where we are.
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Sheff United are doing brilliantly yet are counted on here as a walkover.

We would be on 19pts in 5th but for VAR.

Who would be complaining then?

willo30 said:
Surely the fact we are 2/5 summers into the project and have gone backwards tells us the plan isn't working.

Just like the Bobby plan and Keoman after him.

Only thing in common for all these managers is that they were never good enough to warrant the Everton job.
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Martinez i think is a manager who needs players who are at the top level and suit his system.

Koeman is a manager who suits effectively a part time role for Holland where the players think hes a legend.

Silva I look at it 2 ways:

A: Huge mitigating circumstances (rebuild / injuries / form / VAR / didnt sign the players he wanted / bad luck)

B: Who can we get that is better....this is more of a question which will be partially answered with the next appointment.


So i see everything has gone against him and now the fans + the board are slating him leaving him in a kind of limbo.

Would i swap him for a top manager, of course.
 
bol-uk said:
All the non-academy players have been excellent in the past, thats why we bought them. All are under performing due to a poor manager
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Have they?

They all have talent and they all have moments, most top flight footballers do.

If I was named manager tomorrow (and I might be who knows..) I would be looking long term to keep about 2 players. Obviously football cant work like that but I think we keep conning ourselves by saying our players are good. I mean maybe if we played to our players strengths...
 
granter79 said:
Players are also to blame I believe. Some have been there through 3 or 4 if the last managers and will happily see him fail
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evertonarntwe said:
million perfect agree, however mate they are ultimately getting picked by silva

you me every other sane evertonian can see players like morgan and siggy are a liability at the minute but he keeps picking them
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My view is that half of the squad know they are on borrowed time.

Its not going to be a positive dressing room. Look at Spurs under Poch this season.

Same thing.
 

Papa Shango said:
Have they?

They all have talent and they all have moments, most top flight footballers do.

If I was named manager tomorrow (and I might be who knows..) I would be looking long term to keep about 2 players. Obviously football cant work like that but I think we keep conning ourselves by saying our players are good. I mean maybe if we played to our players strengths...
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Pickford
Digne
Mina
Richarlison
Bernard
Iwobi

Those for me are the ones to keep along with Gbamin / Kean / Davies / DCL perhaps

Beyond that ???
 
Zatara said:
Pickford
Digne
Mina
Richarlison
Bernard
Iwobi

Those for me are the ones to keep along with Gbamin / Kean / Davies / DCL perhaps

Beyond that ???
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I think you are being a bit generous on Mina, Bernard, Pickford and Iwobi to be honest (I like them all but again I think they are flawed) but yeah pretty much the ones you named. Maybe Gomes too but he is wildly inconsistent and who knows how he will return after his lay off?
 
Kirkles said:
Gomes
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Papa Shango said:
I think you are being a bit generous on Mina, Bernard, Pickford and Iwobi to be honest (I like them all but again I think they are flawed) but yeah pretty much the ones you named. Maybe Gomes too but he is wildly inconsistent and who knows how he will return after his lay off?
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To be honest, i should have put Gomes on the list.

For me, hes a decent squad player (starter or bench) but looks a shadow from his Valencia days.

A lot of our players are yo-yoing game to game.

For me thats another reason to feel for the manager, young players and inconsistent players are...unreliable unless in a settled team.

Its a rebuild so....
 
Zatara said:
Youre actually slating a manager for being a mercenary (walking away from a contract at Watford) when he has not shown any such characteristics.

Certainly he didnt walk away from Watford.

So youre either uninformed or just telling porky pies.

As for the South American player comment, perhaps you should stick to understanding things before posting about them lol
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You’re just splitting hairs over the Watford scenario; we all know the circs.

But you’re probably right about not understanding the content of your posts, as I generally fall asleep reading most of them.
 

HeadieTwo said:
Farhad Moshiri is not convinced with the possible appointment of David Moyes. Bill Kenwright and CEO Denise Barrett-Baxendale are keen on Moyes returning to the club but Moshiri wants a manager who can excite fans (Source - Football Insider)
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The same Moshiri who was stupid enough to go for Silva, we need someone until the end of the season to keep us up, exciting fans should be the last thing on his mind.
 
@Zatara you say its not Silva's fault and that the players aint good enough...... But then you stick up for Brands and state he's signed largely good players

Who's fault is it then as you contradict yourself massively bud.

Both have had 18 months into the job - look at the progression of Rodgers/Santo at Wolves and Leicester - 18 months into any job should see progression no matter how small and if there isnt questions have to be asked.

Our players aint top 6 quality but they are better than half the other teams in the league atleast yet we are 16th playing crap football - thats down to Silva and the coaches.
 

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