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Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
You are picking a once in a life time situation. And they didn’t just sit back every game. Maybe in a few high profile games against the big teams it looked like they played counter attacking football.
But they Certainly didn’t sit back against us. And they probably didn’t against 70% of the league. But ultimately they played fast flowing football and when then went forward they did so in numbers . And I didn’t say you have to play like city or Barca.
I said that the days of a big Sam, moyes, dyche, koeman or even jose’s Defensive style having success in the prem are long gone.
The majority of things I pointed out were nothing to do with the players, they are too do with personal preference and stubbornness. He wants to zonal mark, he wants to play 4-2-3-1, he doesn't see the necessity to change tactics in games where we are struggling to gain control or need to break a team down.
We can be very good for 3 weeks then awful in week 4. That's not blending or recruitment, that's managerial shortcomings.
He should do himself a favour and consider a play B when option A isn't working. And clearly, the set up we have does not translate to away games: yet no change...
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Problem is when you dont improve you stand still, stand still in football and you go backwards.
Clubs like West Ham and Leicester are way ahead of us now, and I dont just mean in the current table
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
But you need to virtually forget about the first 2/3 years under Walsh & koeman. Apart from 2 or 3 players it’s been a very expensive disaster.
Brands has only really had 2 windows. Go back the last 15years abs plenty of teams wasted loads of money and not got anywhere. Or struggled to justify their spending. Even city with all their money were very lucky Witt the first 2 titles they won. It’s only pep that has really turned that team into a machine.
Chelsea didn’t in an era where there was huge cap between what they were spending, alongside Utd abs to a slightly lesser extent Liverpool, compared to teams just below them. If you look now at the last 3/4 years since we’ve had money. Teams like Bournemouth, West Ham, wolves, villa, Leicester have all spent big Money, maybe not as much as us, but the difference isn’t as big as you would think or the media would have you believe
Liverpool, spurs, Newcastle Leeds all had spells in the past of spending big money and not really winning anything. And in an era when it was a lot easier.
AsiaAsia82
Player Valuation: £35m
Mid table mediocre manager
I don’t get the ‘we must keep him because we’ve sacked other poor managers recently’’ malarkey
Utd have had similar number of managers in recent times but still won stuff
Spend big on a manager please to stop the cycle,
I don’t get the ‘we must keep him because we’ve sacked other poor managers recently’’ malarkey
Utd have had similar number of managers in recent times but still won stuff
Spend big on a manager please to stop the cycle,
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
They aren’t way head imo. Started the season better obviously. I would still back us to finish above West Ham. And Leicester are a vardy injury away from their season becoming a totally different one.
efcforever
Player Valuation: £10m
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I think it has a lot to do with recruitment.
If Silva had the say so on who came in and when they came in (and who left) we'd see different permutations.
He's basically having to force fit another man's players into an 11 that he doesn't really believe in, so doesn't deviate from his security blanket of 4231
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
I am fairly sure that going to two strikers is his plan B.
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
Dyche has a style. But why hasn’t he moved on to bigger team with money, because chairman know fans don’t won’t to see a team full of players 6:4” players. And the ball in the Air for 90mins.
Big Sam has managed a few big clubs. And been hated by the fans at all of them for his style. Out of interest would you have Dyche at Everton or take big Sam back?
As for Jose, he’s a world class manager, but as soon as it starts to go pear shaped at nearly every club the fans have turned. And because of Pep, Klopp and Poch. Jose style is outdated.
Why are you making excuses?
We have spent hundreds of millions more than all those teams you quote and have had a higher wage bill than all of them for years.
Yet Leicester outperform, Wolves have come up from the championship and outperform us and we are closer to Bournemouth than breaking into the top 6.
Again, why the excuses and delusion? Are you seriously suggesting we are doing ok?
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
He’s lost 4/5 games, two of them being to newly promoted teams, and he still hasn’t lost his job. How much more will it take? Koeman was sacked for less.
No I wouldnd want Dyche at everton but that has nothing to do with his `style' of football. If you tried to play free flowing football in the prem with Burnleys wage/transfer budget just about every manager on the planet would be sacked very quickly.
You adapt to circumstances.
I was sickened by evertonians reaction to Alladyce's apppintment. He did a good job in very difficult circumstances and deserved a chance with a proper budget that summer. He played very good football at times with Bolton, hugely overachived with them and genrally did a better than expected job everywhere he has gone.
Meanwhile a Portuguese manager with no record of achievement outsde of the Greek league is welcomed like some sort of God. Just utterly bizarre mate.
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