Yep, he should only be sacked if we have a replacement lined up, none of this getting an interim manager in (shudders at the thought of Allardyce again) or one of the backroom at the club.
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Yep, he should only be sacked if we have a replacement lined up, none of this getting an interim manager in (shudders at the thought of Allardyce again) or one of the backroom at the club.
I do believe that a manager can influence a team from the sideline.
Guardiloa and Klopp constantly look as if they are about to come in and strangle somebody, Mourinho the same although less in recent seasons and for those that can remember back a few years just think of what a young Alex Ferguson was like.
Having a manager cajoling or berating a player from the sideline must make a difference, it must get an extra ounce of performance from the players.
Guardiloa and Klopp constantly look as if they are about to come in and strangle somebody, Mourinho the same although less in recent seasons and for those that can remember back a few years just think of what a young Alex Ferguson was like.
Having a manager cajoling or berating a player from the sideline must make a difference, it must get an extra ounce of performance from the players.
Bluerover
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Everton's pursuit of success has left them stuck in a vicious circle
A series of failed transfer windows is catching up on manager Marco Silva, writes Chris Bascombe
Chris Bascombe
October 18 2019 2:30 AM
To sum up the problems at Everton, we should consider an ambition of the director of football, Marcel Brands.
"My goal for the long-term is to bring this club to a situation, like the top clubs, where you bring two or three new players and maybe get two or three players out in each window - that should give the club more stability," Brands said.
To put it into perspective, Brands has been actively involved in negotiating over 60 deals since joining Everton in 2018. If that demonstrates the level of debris to clear over the past 12 months, the club's recent return on investment shows Brands is still some way off the serenity he craves.
Everton have the seventh-highest annual wage bill in the Premier League. This season, it equates to each player costing £462,857 per point, based on their average annual salary. Only two clubs have achieved worse value for money this season.
Despite Everton being the fifth-highest spender in the last transfer window - albeit they recouped money from sales, too - they are in the bottom three. This is not the payback Farhad Moshiri, the owner, envisioned when announcing his Everton investment in February 2016.
Everton seemed to have stability then, among that cluster of clubs in need of a financial jolt to regularly challenge the top four. They had two managers in 14 years. Moshiri has already sacked three and has never given much of an impression he is overly enamoured with Marco Silva.
Now Silva goes into tomorrow's game with West Ham having raised the stakes on his future by introducing the idea of a "must-win" fixture after the last defeat at Burnley. No one else at Goodison Park has suggested the manager will go if his side loses for the fifth consecutive league match, and the club insist they want to give him time. But - as the Gwladys Street chant goes - they know their history. Recent managerial stints have ended after depressing home games when disillusionment turned to fury.
Patience is wearing thin as Everton chase what every aspirational club craves - that virtuous circle where investment brings success, success attracts better players and yields more lucrative sponsors, and sponsors facilitate more investment in the club's infrastructure and team.
Millions have been ploughed into the squad during an era when Manchester United, Arsenal and - to a lesser extent - Chelsea have been weaker. Had these resources been put to better use Everton would now be the natural rivals of Leicester City, pursuing realistic top-four aspirations. Instead, even when money is available, they operate in a challenging market where the most coveted players want European football elsewhere.
It has prompted a series of risky and, in some cases, catastrophic recruitment decisions, the consequences of which continue to have a debilitating impact.
It has been a steep learning curve for the owner during what, so far, has been an unproductive reign, but he cannot be accused of not putting his hand in his pocket.
Much of the current difficulties are still traced back to the summer of 2017 when manager Ronald Koeman and director of football Steve Walsh oversaw a £144 million spree to rebuild the squad.
Of the 14 deals, only Jordan Pickford can be deemed a success. Michael Keane was in better form until recently, but the sale of Romelu Lukaku has had the most profound impact on the team.
After Koeman's sacking, Theo Walcott and Cenk Tosun arrived under Sam Allardyce the following January, the duo sneaking in just before a review of transfer policy insisted on ending such expensive deals for ageing earners. Neither can be offloaded so continue to make their anonymous weekly appearances from the bench.
Encouraging
Brands replaced Walsh in 2018 and his early restructuring work was encouraging, removing some of the biggest salaries, while securing a genuine, Champions League calibre player in Lucas Digne and Richarlison. Loan signings Andre Gomes and Kurt Zouma were a class above those they replaced, too. But last summer's transfer window left the club with unfinished business.
With Zouma's loan spell over, Silva spent months pleading for a centre-back. On deadline day he was given attacking midfielder Alex Iwobi, one of those deals which smacked of last-minute improvisation rather than long-term planning. Despite a further £122 million in 2019, Everton have an unbalanced squad, desperately lacking in attacking areas where they remain dependant on the promise of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and Moise Kean. The manager is inevitably taking the most flak. Dropping into the bottom three raises doubts he can meet his objective of improving on last year's points tally, qualifying for Europe and oversee two prolonged cups runs.
The conceding of set-piece goals and persisting with a 4-2-3-1 formation has not helped. It may be with reluctance and - given their injury list - even greater difficulty he goes back to the drawing board. Everton's pursuit of that virtuous circle continues. At the moment, they are trying to escape a vicious one.
(© Daily Telegraph, London)
A series of failed transfer windows is catching up on manager Marco Silva, writes Chris Bascombe
Chris Bascombe
October 18 2019 2:30 AM
To sum up the problems at Everton, we should consider an ambition of the director of football, Marcel Brands.
"My goal for the long-term is to bring this club to a situation, like the top clubs, where you bring two or three new players and maybe get two or three players out in each window - that should give the club more stability," Brands said.
To put it into perspective, Brands has been actively involved in negotiating over 60 deals since joining Everton in 2018. If that demonstrates the level of debris to clear over the past 12 months, the club's recent return on investment shows Brands is still some way off the serenity he craves.
Everton have the seventh-highest annual wage bill in the Premier League. This season, it equates to each player costing £462,857 per point, based on their average annual salary. Only two clubs have achieved worse value for money this season.
Despite Everton being the fifth-highest spender in the last transfer window - albeit they recouped money from sales, too - they are in the bottom three. This is not the payback Farhad Moshiri, the owner, envisioned when announcing his Everton investment in February 2016.
Everton seemed to have stability then, among that cluster of clubs in need of a financial jolt to regularly challenge the top four. They had two managers in 14 years. Moshiri has already sacked three and has never given much of an impression he is overly enamoured with Marco Silva.
Now Silva goes into tomorrow's game with West Ham having raised the stakes on his future by introducing the idea of a "must-win" fixture after the last defeat at Burnley. No one else at Goodison Park has suggested the manager will go if his side loses for the fifth consecutive league match, and the club insist they want to give him time. But - as the Gwladys Street chant goes - they know their history. Recent managerial stints have ended after depressing home games when disillusionment turned to fury.
Patience is wearing thin as Everton chase what every aspirational club craves - that virtuous circle where investment brings success, success attracts better players and yields more lucrative sponsors, and sponsors facilitate more investment in the club's infrastructure and team.
Millions have been ploughed into the squad during an era when Manchester United, Arsenal and - to a lesser extent - Chelsea have been weaker. Had these resources been put to better use Everton would now be the natural rivals of Leicester City, pursuing realistic top-four aspirations. Instead, even when money is available, they operate in a challenging market where the most coveted players want European football elsewhere.
It has prompted a series of risky and, in some cases, catastrophic recruitment decisions, the consequences of which continue to have a debilitating impact.
It has been a steep learning curve for the owner during what, so far, has been an unproductive reign, but he cannot be accused of not putting his hand in his pocket.
Much of the current difficulties are still traced back to the summer of 2017 when manager Ronald Koeman and director of football Steve Walsh oversaw a £144 million spree to rebuild the squad.
Of the 14 deals, only Jordan Pickford can be deemed a success. Michael Keane was in better form until recently, but the sale of Romelu Lukaku has had the most profound impact on the team.
After Koeman's sacking, Theo Walcott and Cenk Tosun arrived under Sam Allardyce the following January, the duo sneaking in just before a review of transfer policy insisted on ending such expensive deals for ageing earners. Neither can be offloaded so continue to make their anonymous weekly appearances from the bench.
Encouraging
Brands replaced Walsh in 2018 and his early restructuring work was encouraging, removing some of the biggest salaries, while securing a genuine, Champions League calibre player in Lucas Digne and Richarlison. Loan signings Andre Gomes and Kurt Zouma were a class above those they replaced, too. But last summer's transfer window left the club with unfinished business.
With Zouma's loan spell over, Silva spent months pleading for a centre-back. On deadline day he was given attacking midfielder Alex Iwobi, one of those deals which smacked of last-minute improvisation rather than long-term planning. Despite a further £122 million in 2019, Everton have an unbalanced squad, desperately lacking in attacking areas where they remain dependant on the promise of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and Moise Kean. The manager is inevitably taking the most flak. Dropping into the bottom three raises doubts he can meet his objective of improving on last year's points tally, qualifying for Europe and oversee two prolonged cups runs.
The conceding of set-piece goals and persisting with a 4-2-3-1 formation has not helped. It may be with reluctance and - given their injury list - even greater difficulty he goes back to the drawing board. Everton's pursuit of that virtuous circle continues. At the moment, they are trying to escape a vicious one.
(© Daily Telegraph, London)
DickRitchie214
Player Valuation: £5m
this has to make you laugh...what the hell did he pursue & sign him for?!
The problem with that is almost definitely the manager we want is already leading a team and his club will not want to release him and possibly the manager will not want to walk out on his players mid season.
Do we then continue to leave the manager in situ...even though results continue to go against us?
There may be other solutions like bringing an experienced general manager in to work with Silva... but would/could the manager be prepared to work with that ?
I think it all falls back to Marcel Brands, was Silva a brands or Moshiri appointment( Brands may have been consulted on the appointment long before he himself was appointed)?
Does Silva still have the support of Brands... or Moshiri ?
Who is the manager they would like to replace Silva?
BASCOMBE HAS SPOKEN TOO 
The end is nigh.
The end is nigh.
evertonarntwe
Player Valuation: £35m
Can Silva going ultra defensive tomorrow to try and not concede. Biggest game of his career this
neil999
Player Valuation: £80m
BASCOMBE HAS SPOKEN TOO
The end is nigh.
mark hughes, with hibbo as assistant
davids
Player Valuation: £70m
Because he has no clue about football? Watford didn't sack Silva because he was pulling up trees.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
A draw worries me, it might save his job, getting shut is more important long term then one miserable point
BASCOMBE HAS SPOKEN TOO
The end is nigh.
Not really, both him and McNulty say defeat wont mean sack.
Steady on, things aren`t that bad Neil.
We`ve got to give Pulis a go after Moyes, before we get to Hughes and Hibbert.
Although I`ve got to say Hughes and Hibbert does have a ring about it, even if it does sound like a chain of greengrocers in Yorkshire.
The end is nigh(ish)
That's the catch 22 mate. If results continue to go against us then Silva should be volleyed (sooner rather than later) but do we then appoint the likes of Unsworth till we can get the manager we're after in place (IMO results will still go against us with him at the helm) or do we get someone like Moyes till the end of the season, and would Moyes be willing to do it without a guarantee that if things pick - up with him in charge he gets a crack at the job full - time. These are the dilemma's as to why Brands is paid a massive wedge.
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