Martinez Christmas Poll

[mitchell1996]

all i know is that we should be doing a lot better with this squad

 

[Dutch Toffee]

Sacking him now would be absolutely ridiculous. We'd be the laughing stock of the PL for our kneejerking and would probably find ourselves in a relegation scrap when the new messiah doesn't pan out. I'm as annoyed at him and the results as everyone else. And I believe we are underperforming and our defensive frailties need addressing. And I'm not sure if Roberto is the man to fix the latter. If we are in a worse position than we are now at the end of the season, I'd say a serious conversation with the owners would be in order and if there were not a dramatic improvement in the first couple of months of next season, part ways. Sorry but sacking him now is childish lunacy and any of you who voted that way for anything other than a wind-up need to get real. Lads, we're tenth in the league. Seriously, get real.

Imo, get us into Europe through the cups and at least a top 6/7 finish in the Premiership. If not, it's time to say goodbye. NSNO shouldn't only count for the board. He has more than enough quality to his disposal to deliver.

 

[LAToffee]

Imo, get us into Europe through the cups and at least a top 6/7 finish in the Premiership. If not, it's time to say goodbye. NSNO shouldn't only count for the board. He has more than enough quality to his disposal to deliver.

Don't think that's going to happen and I would understand those that would say sack him at the end of the season to let a new manager work with the team in the pre-season and control the summer transfer. Sacking him now is ludicrous. Maybe the poll means something else that I'm missing? I'd imagine all those who are voting "keep him" believe that we should see where we are at the end of the season.

 

[Dutch Toffee]

Don't think that's going to happen and I would understand those that would say sack him at the end of the season to let a new manager work with the team in the pre-season and control the summer transfer. Sacking him now is ludicrous. Maybe the poll means something else that I'm missing? I'd imagine all those who are voting "keep him" believe that we should see where we are at the end of the season.

I'm not a fan of replacing managers midway through the season. Voted 'not sure yet' myself. Don't have any false allegiance to Martinez either though. Atm we're seriously underachieving, I'll give him time till the end of the season to convince me

 

[LAToffee]

In our current state (a state that can imagine a Laudrup, a Pardew, and a Bilic, but not a Ancelotti or even a Klopp), I think we have to recognize that managers that can consistently deliver a 10 finish are few and far between. Just consider the last 4 seasons and think up all those "flavors of the month" that have flopped in their second and third season. And I know Moyes was one of those, but things had gotten stale for all involved. Martinez gives a top 10 finish with a good cup run (and a final of LC after beating MC is surely that if that happens) and I think he's earned a fourth season. And no it's not a season that I'm happy with at all and I'm looking for changes, but people here are deluded if they think any old manager could inherit that team and be cracking top 4.

 

[LAToffee]

I'm not a fan of replacing managers midway through the season. Voted 'not sure yet' myself. Don't have any false allegiance to Martinez either though. Atm we're seriously underachieving, I'll give him time till the end of the season to convince me

That is very much my opinion. Supported him all the way through last season and was really hoping we would kick on after doing well with a difficult opening. But the lack of clean sheets and the inability to kill off games is becoming a real concern.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Atleast we'll win a cup. Marky Mark my words.

 

[hibbo'sclass]

He has been Manager of the month (Everton only branch) 24+ times.
Is that not enough silverware to suppress the nay-sayers?
Or should he be hung, drawn, and quartered for the criminal underachievement of the last season and a half.
Decisions decisions...

 

[orly]

00:15

1. Keep him
   85 vote(s)
   32.3%
2. Fire him
   94 vote(s)
   35.7%

 

[DrEFC]

The match panned out exactly as I thought. If one of world's crappest ever footballers who hung up his boots aged 11 can recognise this, a multimillionaire ex-pro and son of a manager should.

 

[EvertonRhys]

Voted for him to go, as I've seen no action on issues that were pretty clear 18 months ago. Look no different to the beginning of last season. Fine in attack but useless if it can't be defended.

Not that it means anything though, because this board won't sack anyone unless we are on the verge of relegation. Let's get used to mid table!

 

[skumar55]

We are slightly improved Wigan athletic in disguise !!! Get rid I say ! Merry Xmas all

 

[adi dassler]

If (as I suspect ) we get torn a new one by city over 2 legs and we continue to hover around mid-table, the Spanish fraud needs to leg it in the summer

 

[Osamabindiesel]

It's the things such as keeping Naismith and Kone in the starting lineup every game and alienating one of our most talented players that has befuddled me. I don't think Mirallas would automatically change the fixtures if he had been in the right mind set and playing regularly, but he would have probably made a difference to a squad that is hemorrhaging for another clinical finisher. I don't think he is awful, but he isn't infallible and has made several mistakes that everyone can see.

 

[orly]

In our current state (a state that can imagine a Laudrup, a Pardew, and a Bilic, but not a Ancelotti or even a Klopp), I think we have to recognize that managers that can consistently deliver a 10 finish are few and far between. Just consider the last 4 seasons and think up all those "flavors of the month" that have flopped in their second and third season. And I know Moyes was one of those, but things had gotten stale for all involved. Martinez gives a top 10 finish with a good cup run (and a final of LC after beating MC is surely that if that happens) and I think he's earned a fourth season. And no it's not a season that I'm happy with at all and I'm looking for changes, but people here are deluded if they think any old manager could inherit that team and be cracking top 4.

He's won 16 league games in 57 matches or something similar.

That's a season and a half of sustained under-performance.