Martinez new Belgium head coach

[Lelouch]

The truth is that you fear Roberto...just like you and others did when he was a win against France away from lifting the World Cup. The stench of faeces on this thread was overwhelming as you lot filled your pants with brown stuff.

 

[davek]

I was scared after that Brazil game Dave.

But thankfully he went full Martinez after that.

Nope, he was let down by Lukaku not seizing a chance or three. Belgium were a world class finisher away from a World Cup win. Everyone knows it.

 

[BigMick]

Nope, he was let down by Lukaku not seizing a chance or three. Belgium were a world class finisher away from a World Cup win. Everyone knows it.

It's good to have 'the voice of reason' back.

 

[goodisonopheliac]

@davek

The rats are leaving the sinking ship.

Maybe he's jealous because Henry is too sexy.

 

[dholliday]

Just stumbled upon an old Roberto quote I haven't seen before...

“I think you do not have a better English player. Technically, he is as good as you get. For me he is one of the most sensational you are going to see in Premier League history.”

He was of course talking about Tom Cleverley.

 

[BigMick]

Just stumbled upon an old Roberto quote I haven't seen before...

“I think you do not have a better English player. Technically, he is as good as you get. For me he is one of the most sensational you are going to see in Premier League history.”

He was of course talking about Tom Cleverley.

Thank you for that pearl of wisdom from 'the maestro'. Here's a couple more - try and guess the players! (Answers at the bottom)

Player A "will take us to a different level in terms of our forward play." (Clue - he wasn't wrong!)
Player B "is one of the best English players ever."
Player C "is not injury prone...It is so unfair when you are in a position where you have fought really strongly to get back in the side and to have a massive impact in the games he has played and all we want is to get him back fully fit and ready to show his worth on the pitch again.”



Answers: A: Aiden McGeady; B: Gareth Barry; C. Darron Gibson.
Everyone who got all 3 right wins a copy of 'A Bluffer's Guide to Football' by Roberto Martinez, autographed by @davek

 

[davek]

Thank you for that pearl of wisdom from 'the maestro'. Here's a couple more - try and guess the players! (Answers at the bottom)

Player A "will take us to a different level in terms of our forward play." (Clue - he wasn't wrong!)
Player B "is one of the best English players ever."
Player C "is not injury prone...It is so unfair when you are in a position where you have fought really strongly to get back in the side and to have a massive impact in the games he has played and all we want is to get him back fully fit and ready to show his worth on the pitch again.”



Answers: A: Aiden McGeady; B: Gareth Barry; C. Darron Gibson.
Everyone who got all 3 right wins a copy of 'A Bluffer's Guide to Football' by Roberto Martinez, autographed by @davek

Success everywhere he goes:

Swansea - dead and buried as a club: Martinez gets them an identity and playing again...a way of playing that takes them to the PL eventually and is retained to keep them there for years.

Wigan - takes a pub team and beats the most expensively assembled British team ever to hand them their one and only major trophy.

Everton - has us playing like the School of Science again and hands us our best ever PL season in terms of points and wins.

Belgium - less than 18 months to make himself that nations most successful ever manager.


....but, yeah, "ee torks ded funny lad".

Facts dictate that this is a debate you can never win...you do realise that, dont you?

 

[Papa Shango]

Thank you for that pearl of wisdom from 'the maestro'. Here's a couple more - try and guess the players! (Answers at the bottom)

Player A "will take us to a different level in terms of our forward play." (Clue - he wasn't wrong!)
Player B "is one of the best English players ever."
Player C "is not injury prone...It is so unfair when you are in a position where you have fought really strongly to get back in the side and to have a massive impact in the games he has played and all we want is to get him back fully fit and ready to show his worth on the pitch again.”



Answers: A: Aiden McGeady; B: Gareth Barry; C. Darron Gibson.
Everyone who got all 3 right wins a copy of 'A Bluffer's Guide to Football' by Roberto Martinez, autographed by @davek

Seriously now...what are you expecting a manager to say?

McGeady: Yeah I have just signed him but hes rubbish really and I dislike his face.
Barry: Hes average and old, we only got him coz he was cheap.
Gibson: Pisshead.

As a manager of a club I would expect them to hype up anybody we have to either spur them on or to not decrease their value.

It's a bit of a mad thing to pull a manager up on.

 

[BigMick]

Success everywhere he goes:

Swansea - dead and buried as a club: Martinez gets them an identity and playing again...a way of playing that takes them to the PL eventually and is retained to keep them there for years.

Wigan - takes a pub team and beats the most expensively assembled British team ever to hand them their one and only major trophy.

Everton - has us playing like the School of Science again and hands us our best ever PL season in terms of points and wins.

Belgium - less than 18 months to make himself that nations most successful ever manager.


....but, yeah, "ee torks ded funny lad".

Facts dictate that this is a debate you can never win...you do realise that, dont you?

If only Roberto could get his teams to defend as staunchly as you defend him!

 

[davek]

If only Roberto could get his teams to defend as staunchly as you defend him!

...if he did he'd go from Very good to great rapidly.

He's adapting though. The WC underlined that. The move to put Fellaini on and shake things up saved them against Japan. People learn. People evolve.

 

[BigMick]

...if he did he'd go from Very good to great rapidly.

He's adapting though. The WC underlined that. The move to put Fellaini on and shake things up saved them against Japan. People learn. People evolve.

Scant evidence that he's adapting - Japan scored two, should have had more, France scored from his old bête-noir, a set-piece.

Against a team like Japan, Felli should have started, but given he didn't, everyone was calling for him to come on and couldn't understand why Roberto took so long. But you're right about him evolving I suppose, he at least had the sense to consult the David Moyes Book of Tactics by sticking the big man upfront.

Deserves more credit for bringing Chadli on.

 

[Thomasc]

A list of Martinez's failures:

Resurrects Swansea Football Club
Hands Wigan their one and only trophy in their history
Oversees Everton's best ever PL season
Coaches Belgium to their best ever international run culminating in their best ever tournament in their 114 year history

Come on lads.

You lot are like that Japanese regiment who's remnants were found on a Pacific island in the 1970s still fighting the Yanks.

It's over. Just throw down your out dated weapons and join the modern world.

You missed out the most important one.

He got relegated.

 

[deipnosophist]

You missed out the most important one.

He got relegated.

An inconvenient truth

 

[davek]

Scant evidence that he's adapting - Japan scored two, should have had more, France scored from his old bête-noir, a set-piece.

Against a team like Japan, Felli should have started, but given he didn't, everyone was calling for him to come on and couldn't understand why Roberto took so long. But you're right about him evolving I suppose, he at least had the sense to consult the David Moyes Book of Tactics by sticking the big man upfront.

Deserves more credit for bringing Chadli on.

Conceded a set piece goal...at the World Cup that was avalanched by...set piece goals?

That's pretty damning stuff!

The feller is a very good manager. Only a gaggle of people on twitter and Everton forums wish to denigrate him but the vast majority of the football world see a very good manager. In short: the war's over. You lost.

 

[BigMick]

Conceded a set piece goal...at the World Cup that was avalanched by...set piece goals?

That's pretty damning stuff!

The feller is a very good manager. Only a gaggle of people on twitter and Everton forums wish to denigrate him but the vast majority of the football world see a very good manager. In short: the war's over. You lost.

Reminiscent of George W Bush declaring the Iraq war to be over and won!