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Martinez new Belgium head coach

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dholliday said:
The ratio isn't important. What's important is that physical gritty determination & technical-artistry are both obviously present in the team. The former wasn't obviously present in a Martinez team. Both qualities were present in all our trophy-winning teams.

The term 'school of science' didn't even come from an Evertonian, initially. It was an opponent of one of our 20's Dixie-inspired teams. He praised the advanced technical craft, the almost scientific application, of our football. It's controlled power, like indeed a science experiment.

Online you'll find many indications that school of science means determination as well as art (the appliance of science involves both). Here's one for example:

Walter Smith knew that his number was up after last Sunday's FA Cup quarter- final defeat by Middlesbrough. It was shoddy, spiritless performance which cut across even the most meagre aspirations of the Everton supporters. Long gone are the days when the former manager Harry Catterick and Sir John Moores, the Littlewoods pools millionaire, could justifiably claim that any season outside the top six was to be regarded as a failure, but this was the pits. Everton were reduced to spineless also-rans, a travesty of science - a horrible mutant of today's Premiership where money buys everything.

A scientist afraid to take a chance won't succeed. Proper application of the school of science includes not to be fearful. '95 & '96, and arguably 04/05, were the last times we applied the school of science correctly.
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So you're saying that Seamus Coleman, James McCarthy, Gareth Barry, Steven Naismith, Sylvain Distin and Steven Pienaar weren't gritty and determined? They all played well over 30 games that season apart from Pienaar who played 24 times.

I'm sorry, this makes no sense to me - to deny that Martinez team had these characters at its heart.

Are you sure you dont mean something else?
 
davek said:
So you're saying that Seamus Coleman, James McCarthy, Gareth Barry, Steven Naismith, Sylvain Distin and Steven Pienaar weren't gritty and determined? They all played well over 30 games that season apart from Pienaar who played 24 times.

I'm sorry, this makes no sense to me - to deny that Martinez team had these characters at its heart.

Are you sure you dont mean something else?
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Not determined enough were they? Downing tools the next two seasons, getting thrashed several times by our rivals, losing two semi-finals, crashing out of the Euros etc
 
davek said:
May I remind you....

"Don't let it be forgot, that once there was a spot, for one brief shining moment, that was known as Camelot."
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And so it begins...... the Big Clubs beating a path to Roberto's door.

Claude Puel has, according to a couple of rags, just two more games to save his job. If he fails it seems Leicester are keen on 'our Bobby' and Thierry 'I call him gaffer' Henry, either as a duo or individually. The former seems unlikely given Henry's stated desire to become a manager so they could be in competition for the job - would certainly be a well earned pay rise for Roberto if he got it. One of them's never managed, the other got us a record number of premier league points and worked miracles to get Belgium to the WC semis - I know which I'd choose!
 

BigMick said:
And so it begins...... the Big Clubs beating a path to Roberto's door.

Claude Puel has, according to a couple of rags, just two more games to save his job. If he fails it seems Leicester are keen on 'our Bobby' and Thierry 'I call him gaffer' Henry, either as a duo or individually. The former seems unlikely given Henry's stated desire to become a manager so they could be in competition for the job - would certainly be a well earned pay rise for Roberto if he got it. One of them's never managed, the other got us a record number of premier league points and worked miracles to get Belgium to the WC semis - I know which I'd choose!
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No chance another premier league club would be stupid enough to give him another chance
 

Wouldn't be welcomed by the fans at Leicester.

They saw the horror show that day we turned up at their title celebration match.
 

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