Martinez new Belgium head coach

[Death]

What about Koeman then? Hired by Netherlands who are far bigger international name than Belgium and linked with the same Barca job, yet you don’t rate him at all.

Ewwwww

 

[wilfjacko]

I really dont need to do anything but play a straight bat to win, but I'm like Viv Richards: sauntering to the crease and smacking balls out for 4's and 6's to a calypso beat.

I've just realised. ...
You're a nutter.
But I love you more than I've ever loved anyone.

 

[COYBL25]

I really dont need to do anything but play a straight bat to win, but I'm like Viv Richards: sauntering to the crease and smacking balls out for 4's and 6's to a calypso beat.

So as well as a being a great footballer, you were also a great opening bat too ?

 

[polish]

Barcelona president just said Valverde is staying.

 

[davek]

What about Koeman then? Hired by Netherlands who are far bigger international name than Belgium and linked with the same Barca job, yet you don’t rate him at all.

That's right, I dont.

 

[davek]

I'm not really sure what your point is with that reply

You staed earlier in the thread that it took Spurs 10 years to get to where they are now. I replied that an ambition of CL qualification was the first step in achieving that. You then underlined that it was a 10 year journey for Spurs. Then I said 'you said it'.

We can set ourslves a target of doing what Spurs do, but you dont get there in one leap. It's incremental. And to dismiss qualification for the CL as you did as an initial objective is ridiculous.

 

[Papa Shango]

He frequently talked out of his hoop, and was embarrassing when he said stuff like he did about a bang average player like Cleverley.

I would much prefer a manage who spoke about every one of our players like they are the best in the world rather than one that downplays everybody and everything.

He was a bad match in that regard though I suppose as we love a good downplaying.

 

[Papa Shango]

Only one manager to get us to that stage ever, and it wasn’t Martinez, he failed.

No manager has got us to that stage...

We have never qualified for the Champions League.

 

[Papa Shango]

Eh?

We have never qualified for the Champions League...

Does my head in that Moyes gets that on his CV. We did not qualify. Its like Derby saying they got to the Premier League yesterday purely by getting to a game where a place in said league was on the line.

There is no point in getting fourth if you don't qualify, it means nothing.

 

[Thomasc]

No manager has got us to that stage...

We have never qualified for the Champions League.

Mate, we finished 4th under Moyes. It wasn’t his fault UEFA changed the rules for the neighbors.

Let’s not argue over minor detail. Moyes is the only manager to get us qualification to the CL by finishing in the required places.

 

[Thomasc]

We have never qualified for the Champions League...

Does my head in that Moyes gets that on his CV. We did not qualify. Its like Derby saying they got to the Premier League yesterday purely by getting to a game where a place in said league was on the line.

There is no point in getting fourth if you don't qualify, it means nothing.

Does your head in that Moyes finished 4th which qualified you for CL football?

Smashing stuff.

 

[Papa Shango]

Mate, we finished 4th under Moyes. It wasn’t his fault UEFA changed the rules for the neighbors.

Let’s not argue over minor detail. Moyes is the only manager to get us qualification to the CL by finishing in the required places.

A minor detail???

We didn't qualify for the champions league therefore got zero riches from it, zero chance to attract players and in a month or so's time were getting pumped by the third best team in Bucharest in the consolation cup. We didn't even get the champions league theme!

Literally not actually qualifying for the Champions league in a discussion about qualifying for the champions league is a pretty major detail!

We still would have faced a qualifying game, we still would have got beat because of big game Davy.

 

[Papa Shango]

Does your head in that Moyes finished 4th which qualified you for CL football?

Smashing stuff.

We didn't qualify!!!

Which bit of this do you not get?

 

[Furey1878]

You know fully you’ve entered the twilight zone when Barca’s solution to bottling a game against Liverpool is to hire one of two failed Ex-Everton managers.

 

[TheBigIguana]

You staed earlier in the thread that it took Spurs 10 years to get to where they are now. I replied that an ambition of CL qualification was the first step in achieving that. You then underlined that it was a 10 year journey for Spurs. Then I said 'you said it'.

We can set ourslves a target of doing what Spurs do, but you dont get there in one leap. It's incremental. And to dismiss qualification for the CL as you did as an initial objective is ridiculous.

To say we need a manager who can maybe get us into the CL is failing to shoot high enough. Every move we should make should be with the end goal of finishing first not finishing 6th than 4th than 1st. Obviously there will he a progression but the key is not saying our goal is to get CL without adding that once we are in we want to make it again and again until we are competing to win it. And a manager who gets us 5th 11th 11th and loses semi finals isnt going to be good enough in less we are happy to continue making up the numbers.

That's the difference with Spurs. They've been unyielding in their desire to win every match and not settle for pretty much every day since Poch arrived. Honestly the RS have been the same under Klopp and the same with City under Guardiola. Looking back at Martinez like some savior because of one admittedly incredible season is how we continue to be best of the rest and all those other insults lobbed our way.