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2021/22 Mason Holgate

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???? this thread is horrendous. Everyone griefs him and some of the stuff said about him is horrrendous plays well now people are saying keep all of a sudden. Our fans are so fickle.

Always said he’s a player that needs played in his favourite position (centre half) with a manager to put an arm around him, you will start to see results. Never doubted his ability, but his concentration needs to be up to the level. Sort that out and we have a good centre half capable of helping us in the premier league.
Don't praise him up that much after an half decent game, the chewy and the swagger will be back out of his box
 


I’ve slated him loads but fair play to him today he had a good game.

He and Gomes set a bar today. Old fashioned, but I hope Lampard or one of the coaching staff say that to them. That's the bar, that's where you need to be most weeks.

People may disagree, but I sense it is more about mental state, than it is ability. I've seen limited players, but they both have ability. The best players, get consistency.
 
He and Gomes set a bar today. Old fashioned, but I hope Lampard or one of the coaching staff say that to them. That's the bar, that's where you need to be most weeks.

People may disagree, but I sense it is more about mental state, than it is ability. I've seen limited players, but they both have ability. The best players, get consistency.
Yeah I think there’s a lot of truth in that. Gomes has always been hugely talented but there’s some weird mental thing with him where his performance level can fluctuate maybe more than anyone I’ve ever seen. Sometimes he’s the best player on the pitch one week and then looks like he’s never seen a ball before the next. Holgate’s a weird one, I feel like he’s a talented lad but he has a number of weaknesses in his game and I’m not sure he’s ever done a lot to address them. I’ve been saying for years though, real coaching can see players improve massively and I’m not sure there’s been a huge amount of it going on in recent years.
 

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