Throw Forlan and Rossi in to that mix also.
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Gladstone Brooks signing tomorrow.
Deco
Player Valuation: £40m
Barnsley fans seem of mixed opinion over him but I think their judgement is slightly clouded after seeing a world class prospect coming through in Stones.
A few are mentioning that him/his agent think they're better than they are as well, but I think Martinez would swerve him if that was the case.
A few are mentioning that him/his agent think they're better than they are as well, but I think Martinez would swerve him if that was the case.
TrixyStevens
Player Valuation: £35m
2 twix n a packet of space raiders
Magic BFC
Player Valuation: £500k
Right then I'll weigh in with my two penerth worth, first of all remember assessing these lads on what I've seen of them in a BFC shirt, and my opinions on what they can go on to achieve are just that my options based on what I've seen of them a limited number of times. To become a top class footballer, you need much more then ability in my opinion, with out drive, determination, the right attitude and mentality, footballing ability is useless, At a young age John Stones had the lot and was clear he'd get to the very top very quickly even from a young age, Holgate on the over hand as the footballing abilities to get to the very top of that I'm in no doubt, and if he can develop on the other qualities needed then he can be the next stones no doubt about it, I'm not saying he doesn't have them qualities, just that they're not that apparent at this time, only time will tell. As for Holgate on the pitch, I've seen all his first team games for us, and over 10 youth team games and can only judge him on that level of opponent, he's definitely going to be a centre back 100%, his reading of the game, positioning, timing, composer, tacking, and marking are too good for him not to be, At youth level our club encourage players to play the ball, be comfortable with it and allow them to make mistakes, so they can learn from them, we build up from the back, and let the lads bring the ball out and make passes forward, bringing these lads through at left/right back is seen as a fantastic learning curve for them, helping to develop their footballing abilities, and defensive attributes in area where mistakes aren't punished as often, but punished enough for them to learn from, and that's the reason he's played all his first team games at right back.
Personally I hope we sign him then loan him back to Barnsley for the season. He would only go into our U21 squad and a full season - maybe even at centre half, don't know how good your current pair are - is miles better experience than a season in our youth team despite the lack of integration. If Barnsley teach defenders the same way Everton do it seems logical to me.
Jags..class
Player Valuation: £70m
Good point, but stones done OK and he wasn't loaned out
Magic BFC
Player Valuation: £500k
Stones was better then Holgate when you signed him. Holgate as the potential to be a good player, stones was a good player with the potential to be world class .
Jags..class
Player Valuation: £70m
OK fair enough but Martinez wouldn't be afraid of throwing him in the deep end and sub him for Coleman, he could learn a lot from our players in training. But I wouldn't say no to loaning him back if the club wanted him.
Jags..class
Player Valuation: £70m
Potential to be world class, really as there was only two clubs in for him us and wigan and he fee was ,2 million. He now showing he could be world class which is why we are fighting of Chelsea.
TheCount
Player Valuation: £10m
Magic BFC
Player Valuation: £500k
Yeah really, I've said it before on here,during the last game Stones played for us, the old bloke behind me said, Fook me, if John Stones was Italian, they build a team round him and win the World Cup 3 times before he retired at 38.
Then general consensus was stones would be a England regular for at least 10 years, like now with James Bree he'll be world class one day it's plain to see, their might only be a couple team wanting him when he leaves but I've seen enough of him to know if he can stay fit and develop at the same rate he is now even though he's only played 14 first team games and is only 17 years old he'll play for one of the top team in Europe one day.
good idea that, better to play most weeks for Barnsley at a decent level , than with are under 21.
if they play the passing style at the back it might be an idea to let them have a few of are young kids on loan, help them progress a give Barnsley at little boost as well.
Coffee and TV
Player Valuation: £25m
Judging by his twitter account it seems like Holgate might be a kopite
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