Stones suffered from Martinez being the manager he'd be a much better player if he'd of had 3 seasons under a manager who knew what they were doing defensively.Stones was is good, but it was the media and being English that bigged him up to being a 50 million player, had he been from elsewhere he would have been a 25 million player, which to be honest should be his value. Good at playing with the ball at his feet but poor at defending. Holgate from what I've seen is much better at defending and at the end of the day that's what you want a defender to do. IMO we haven't missed stones one bit.