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Mayor's Bramley Moore Dock Open Letter To Evertonians

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didnt man citys stadium have an athletics track at one point? I could be wrong but the Etihad isnt that bad of a stadium.

Aye, but if you look at their design the lower 'stands' aren't really stands at all - they're structures built 'on' the pitch.

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I'd prefer us to avoid that if at all possible due to the dissipation of the atmosphere.
 
I'm naturally defensive of the club and optimistic all will work well.

On this occasion, I'm genuinely concerned.

The stadium isn't something we can balls up. It's too important.

I told you all in the stadium thread this was cause for concern - the architects tweets was putting feelers out - it's cause for concern, so much so the Mayor has within hours released an open letter on the subject alone.

There's times to be placid an worry about the bridge when you get to it - this isn't one of them.

Make no mistake, there's a compromise here requiring workarounds.

No football club starts with the compromise of athletics for their stadium without some benefit. What is the benefit? "the infrastructure will be temporary with all the costs or installation and removal met by the Commonwealth Games" - wow, big thrill.

You can't fit an athletics track inside Goodison, Anfield, Celtic Park, Westfalenstadion etc for good reason.
 

I liked the bit where he said the running track would be fitted after the final home game of the 21/22 season, does this mean that our ground will be up and running by mid 2021 at the latest....just 4 years from now.....

I have to say it's certainly something that caught my attention.
 
I'm naturally defensive of the club and optimistic all will work well.

On this occasion, I'm genuinely concerned.

The stadium isn't something we can balls up. It's too important.

I told you all in the stadium thread this was cause for concern - the architects tweets was putting feelers out - it's cause for concern, so much so the Mayor has within hours released an open letter on the subject alone.

There's times to be placid an worry about the bridge when you get to it - this isn't one of them.

Make no mistake, there's a compromise here requiring workarounds.

No football club starts with the compromise of athletics for their stadium without some benefit. What is the benefit? "the infrastructure will be temporary with all the costs or installation and removal met by the Commonwealth Games" - wow, big thrill.

You can't fit an athletics track inside Goodison, Anfield, Celtic Park, Westfalenstadion etc for good reason.

Spot on.

I'll also add that these two voices involves a politician with a vested interest in seeing it multi-purpose, and the architect with a vested interest in setting the tone for his own design.

Like you, I'm concerned. It's a case of people saying "don't worry about it" - then when something crap happens, it's too late to do anything about it.
 
didnt man citys stadium have an athletics track at one point? I could be wrong but the Etihad isnt that bad of a stadium.

This, however the bedwetters won't let a little dose of reality or optimism ruin their opportunity to make their sheets yellow. Again.
 
Spot on.

I'll also add that these two voices involves a politician with a vested interest in seeing it multi-purpose, and the architect with a vested interest in setting the tone for his own design.

Like you, I'm concerned. It's a case of people saying "don't worry about it" - then when something crap happens, it's too late to do anything about it.

There is nothing you worrying about it will actually do though.
 

We can only go off what they say though. That Dan Meis guy says he knows it the stands need to be next to the pitch. He said literally that.

How it would work with a track I have no idea, but it's a football stadium foremost.

There isn't another one in the world where it works Ijjy.

Whether "That Dan Meis" guy comes across as sound on Twitter, with the right soundbytes from research agencies is irrelevant to me. On his website;

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I reckon the depth/angle of the seats to cover the space needed for athletics is going to be like his previous designs and Atletico;

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Again, clearly no expert but how else do you fill the big space needed for athletics around a pitch with stands?
 
When is the 2022 CG venue selected? I suppose all the stadia buildings/plans to be used must be submitted in their portfolio's. So Anderson must know a lot more of what he will be submitting in this bid than he's letting on.
 
This, however the bedwetters won't let a little dose of reality or optimism ruin their opportunity to make their sheets yellow. Again.

There's an obvious difference ffs - City's was purposed built for athletics and adapted to football. Our one is apparently football led but adapted to athletics.

And the concern is how that could possibly work - City had to contract space with seats; we'd have to expand into space that shouldn't be there in the first place to accommodate it.

It isn't bedwetting in the slightest; if nothing else, it's a simple mathematical concern about how the hell you can reconcile 'replicating Goodison's intimacy' with a 400m athletics track installation.
 
I liked the bit where he said the running track would be fitted after the final home game of the 21/22 season, does this mean that our ground will be up and running by mid 2021 at the latest....just 4 years from now.....

Easy to say, but for the life of me, I cant see how a football ground, designed for football, can actually physically absorb the acreage of an athletics track, other than some space age design meaning stands sort of disappear some how.
 
didnt man citys stadium have an athletics track at one point? I could be wrong but the Etihad isnt that bad of a stadium.

This, however the bedwetters won't let a little dose of reality or optimism ruin their opportunity to make their sheets yellow. Again.

Less of the bedwetters, soft lad.

As for Man City's Etihad, have you ever been?! I'm not a fan. It doesn't have the steep stands the clubs architect keeps promising. In fact, it does exactly what I said is the only way football grounds replace athletic space - notice the angle/steepness of the lower tier.

City accepted this compromise before they had their money;

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