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Messymascot's faith in humanity and ginger safe haven

Im interested to read the discussions around the NHS having worked in it for nearly 40 years. A society that cannot offer free health care is not one I would want to live in. Is the current NHS fit for purpose? No, but with that we have to define it’s purpose and what it should be doing. I worked in mental health when the big asylums were closing and in principle it was a sound idea. But community care well delivered is never a cheap option, and no matter what anyone says the prime reason for “modernisation “ in the NHS is saving money - it can be dressed up with all the management speak you like but that is and always has been the bottom line.
people are not widgets and it makes running it like a business very challenging. You only have to look at the private companies who have handed their contracts back as they can’t make it pay to see that. They tend to cherry pick the nicely boundaried services and the NHS are left to deal with the multiple pathology presentations with social issues that don’t nicely fit into a diagnostic box. The number of orthopaedic cases I have seen who had joint replacements in private hospitals which went wrong and were then referred into NHS services is huge. Also no emergency care in private so if things go belly up off you go from your comfy bed direct to a and e.
in the latter stages of my career I worked in modernisation quality and governance. An entire industry in itself - some bits essential, others not so much. CQC. - prime example of waste of money - if you go looking for a problem you will find it and indeed if for your organisations survival it is in your interests to do so. Co-ordinating CQC visits, getting all the info they ask for, getting staff to cover etc etc - the cost to a trust is phenomenal. They usually tell you what you already know - that there’s not enough staff and this threatens patient safety - well no [Poor language removed] Sherlock - this is what happens with years of under investment or investment in the wrong things - see above. So many reorganisations to save money - got to the stage where every November I had to reapply for jobs and see colleagues made redundant all in the name of modernisation. Same amount of work still there just less staff.
i was good at my job (just stating a fact here - not bragging) and worked many many more hours than I ever got paid for. In the end it broke me and many others like me who cared so much that it affected our mental health to see what is happening. Hence early retirement. There are lots of sides to this debate, I would say 80% of the people who work in the NHS feel the same.
sorry for the rant - can I still stay in your thread 😂

I’ll be honest Val, I spent pretty much my whole career reviewing major and mega projects and getting rid of those that didn’t perform. I did exactly the same with the MOD in getting developments back on track. I worked with the Cabinet office and NAO to examine failing projects and felt that they will never change. I would have loved to spend four or five years in the NHS, a lot of senior people would no longer be there as the management seems just abysmal……of course now I’m retired and look on with sadness…..
 
Only got watching this now Rita and it’s powerful stuff.

Raising 2 teenagers it’s very relevant regards the dangers of social media and peer pressure.
It chimed with me because of something I know a bit of, in that you have to be attractive to be loved. The disconnect between person and appearance that is preyed upon. I feel desperately sorry for the kids infected with the judgemental aspect of what is explored in the extended advert. The parents beside themselves because they can no longer reach their own children. It never used to be this way, and I struggle to see it as a positive step in evolution.
 
It chimed with me because of something I know a bit of, in that you have to be attractive to be loved. The disconnect between person and appearance that is preyed upon. I feel desperately sorry for the kids infected with the judgemental aspect of what is explored in the extended advert. The parents beside themselves because they can no longer reach their own children. It never used to be this way, and I struggle to see it as a positive step in evolution.

Probably the best post I’ve read……
 
I’ll be honest Val, I spent pretty much my whole career reviewing major and mega projects and getting rid of those that didn’t perform. I did exactly the same with the MOD in getting developments back on track. I worked with the Cabinet office and NAO to examine failing projects and felt that they will never change. I would have loved to spend four or five years in the NHS, a lot of senior people would no longer be there as the management seems just abysmal……of course now I’m retired and look on with sadness…..
We used to call NHS England the place where failed managers go to die - hope there’s none on here 🫢. It was a bit like football management- only so many who got recycled and popped up in different positions having “left” others.
 

It chimed with me because of something I know a bit of, in that you have to be attractive to be loved. The disconnect between person and appearance that is preyed upon. I feel desperately sorry for the kids infected with the judgemental aspect of what is explored in the extended advert. The parents beside themselves because they can no longer reach their own children. It never used to be this way, and I struggle to see it as a positive step in evolution.
Definitely a real modern issue that is magnified by people portraying false lives on social media.

The disconnect from your everyday community and all the fakes of social media is frightening. I’m lucky my kids are into sport and play in teams. They meet people and form bonds the way we did and humans are meant to do. Too many kids just don’t have social interaction outside a school.
 
Im interested to read the discussions around the NHS having worked in it for nearly 40 years. A society that cannot offer free health care is not one I would want to live in. Is the current NHS fit for purpose? No, but with that we have to define it’s purpose and what it should be doing. I worked in mental health when the big asylums were closing and in principle it was a sound idea. But community care well delivered is never a cheap option, and no matter what anyone says the prime reason for “modernisation “ in the NHS is saving money - it can be dressed up with all the management speak you like but that is and always has been the bottom line.
people are not widgets and it makes running it like a business very challenging. You only have to look at the private companies who have handed their contracts back as they can’t make it pay to see that. They tend to cherry pick the nicely boundaried services and the NHS are left to deal with the multiple pathology presentations with social issues that don’t nicely fit into a diagnostic box. The number of orthopaedic cases I have seen who had joint replacements in private hospitals which went wrong and were then referred into NHS services is huge. Also no emergency care in private so if things go belly up off you go from your comfy bed direct to a and e.
in the latter stages of my career I worked in modernisation quality and governance. An entire industry in itself - some bits essential, others not so much. CQC. - prime example of waste of money - if you go looking for a problem you will find it and indeed if for your organisations survival it is in your interests to do so. Co-ordinating CQC visits, getting all the info they ask for, getting staff to cover etc etc - the cost to a trust is phenomenal. They usually tell you what you already know - that there’s not enough staff and this threatens patient safety - well no [Poor language removed] Sherlock - this is what happens with years of under investment or investment in the wrong things - see above. So many reorganisations to save money - got to the stage where every November I had to reapply for jobs and see colleagues made redundant all in the name of modernisation. Same amount of work still there just less staff.
i was good at my job (just stating a fact here - not bragging) and worked many many more hours than I ever got paid for. In the end it broke me and many others like me who cared so much that it affected our mental health to see what is happening. Hence early retirement. There are lots of sides to this debate, I would say 80% of the people who work in the NHS feel the same.
sorry for the rant - can I still stay in your thread 😂


Hi Val and welcome, I’m not sure if you have had the chance to check out the mental health and depression forum on the Everton main page, some posters with great experiences and advice for people posting on there, including a couple of the ladies from this page, I think you would be a good candidate on assisting some of the questions that get asked on there


You may of already seen the forum , so l just wasted time posting this 😂
 
Good morning all on this fine day here in Hyvinkää .I hope all are well and had a good night waking fresh for the new day . Well we seem to have unearthed a treasure in our @Val P . Someone to add to the font of knowledge whilst also having humility and civility .One more for the pot of wonderful people on here who care for others and their well being . Have a great day all COYB .
It would be nice to hear from @Terrarian and @larbert toffee we miss you both lads.
 

Hi Val and welcome, I’m not sure if you have had the chance to check out the mental health and depression forum on the Everton main page, some posters with great experiences and advice for people posting on there, including a couple of the ladies from this page, I think you would be a good candidate on assisting some of the questions that get asked on there


You may of already seen the forum , so l just wasted time posting this 😂
Hi and thank you 😊. No I haven’t seen it - I’ve only recently started joining in tbh, but I will certainly check it out.
 
Good morning all on this fine day here in Hyvinkää .I hope all are well and had a good night waking fresh for the new day . Well we seem to have unearthed a treasure in our @Val P . Someone to add to the font of knowledge whilst also having humility and civility .One more for the pot of wonderful people on here who care for others and their well being . Have a great day all COYB .
It would be nice to hear from @Terrarian and @larbert toffee we miss you both lads.
Aw thank you - what a lovely thing to say, good morning to you too. It must be amazing living in Finland, I guess it’s as beautiful as I imagine
 
Aw thank you - what a lovely thing to say, good morning to you too. It must be amazing living in Finland, I guess it’s as beautiful as I imagine
It is very flat with many lakes and quite warm in summer ,not so cold in the winter now .When I came in 1998 it was often below zero for a whole three months with a nadir of -30° .
When I worked I was a joiner , I could work outside at -24° ,getting back in the car with ice/snow on my boots it might not melt for the three months despite having a heater going all the way home ,now that is strange for a Brit I promise . It is well known on here I live in Hyvinkää so google it .I live 10 miles from the nearest shop! Go with the little man and see what it looks like .
You rise early !
 
I have just watched the Dele Ali interview ,what a life to have lived .I never liked Gary Neville after he called all Scousers but to be fair he was brilliant and I feel honest . If we get the real Dele back that would be special . I have a new found respect for Dele as I too was under the belief that it is great to have that much money and no cares . I remember Aaron Lennon but thought he was the unlucky one , it seems there is a terrible missuse of sleeping tablets that is about to explode in the press.
It was the press that caused a lot of problems for him and they should look at themselves closely .COYB
 

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