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[roydo]

@Sassy Colombian

Since you laughed, in a good way , at my post to clarify particularly years ago lots of people on the outskirts of Liverpool, places that weren’t Liverpool used to fake some ridiculous faux Scouse accent. I found it more than one out of town , or on holiday that these people some how would be ‘pretending ‘ to be from Liverpool . I’ve genuinely no idea why , I can only assume it had a reputation they wanted to court but it was very very odd. I can’t have been the only person to have encountered it .

Pretty much every audience John Bishop has "entertained"?

Although I am a Wirral lad, Neston of all places, after light years down here, when folk ask why I support Everton, I lazily say I am from Liverpool. Its just easier.

As @Groucho and a few others will testify, my Liverpool accent is close to zero. As in below zero.

(After a few drinks, I am told, some faint traces can be heard though.) I am comfortable in my Liverpool heritage though, as @davek will confirm as (very) genuine.

 

[jazzy]

My laugh was definitely in a good way, Harry. I just found the way you wrote it amusing but I appreciate the clarification and I agree that it must be the reputation of being a scouse that may prompt people to pretend to have that accent. I used to have a Latin friend who after learning English she made sure she sounded like an American and got rid off her Latin accent because she didn't want to be associated as an immigrant. So people have many reasons to pretend an accent. I still have my Latin accent even after years of living in the US and I like it.

When I first moved to Liverpool I was very very conscious of my westcountry accent which made me sound like a yokel.

I tried to lose that accent not by adopting a scouse accent - can't and wouldn't - but just by trying to speak properly.

My wife's family thought I was dead posh - which I definately am not - and when I went back to Plymouth a few years later my mates were convinced that I spoke with a scouse accent - which I don't.

The truth is that when you live in a place for a period of time you are bound to pick up local phrases and inflections in accent.

I would never say I'm pleased , always made up. When I talk about a relative it's always ...our David . And , totally subconsciously a "werk" instead of work will fall into my everyday speaking.

 

[jazzy]

Should think so too lol


Only messing.

A very Liverpool thing to say. My mum uses a Westcountry phrase instead ..."only funning"

 

[roydo]

A very Liverpool thing to say. My mum uses a Westcountry phrase instead ..."only funning"

Tis the phrases that get passed down, despite the accent, from my parents, well, mainly me Dad.

Like he always referred to Nikki as "Kidda", which she loved!

Dont reckon I use any Bristolian phrases neither. Such as a Bristolian, asking where sommet is, would say, "Where be that to then?" And the more obvious, "Aw Right my baba?"

Ugh.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Tis the phrases that get passed down, despite the accent, from my parents, well, mainly me Dad.

Like he always referred to Nikki as "Kidda", which she loved!

Dont reckon I use any Bristolian phrases neither. Such as a Bristolian, asking where sommet is, would say, "Where be that to then?" And the more obvious, "Aw Right my baba?"

Ugh.

My second to eldest brother used to call me kidda. Think it came from "our kid" which was Liverpool slang term for my brother.

 

[roydo]

My second to eldest brother used to call me kidda. Think it came from "our kid" which was Liverpool slang term for my brother.

Lets face it,, there isnt a dialect on the planet that has as many different words that could mean absolutely anything than the Liverpool one. Remember the Scouse Translation post from years ago? Could add pages to that.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Lets face it,, there isnt a dialect on the planet that has as many different words that could mean absolutely anything than the Liverpool one. Remember the Scouse Translation post from years ago? Could add pages to that.

Think the cockney rhyming slang takes some beating. Apples and Pears and all that.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Tis the phrases that get passed down, despite the accent, from my parents, well, mainly me Dad.

Like he always referred to Nikki as "Kidda", which she loved!

Dont reckon I use any Bristolian phrases neither. Such as a Bristolian, asking where sommet is, would say, "Where be that to then?" And the more obvious, "Aw Right my baba?"

Ugh.

Think the most common ones down here are proper job, dreckly and ansom. You hear them all the time if you listen out, especially ansom.

I've been called ansom once or twice since I've been down here. One drunk old lady in a pub in Falmouth once said to Cal, es proper ansom your usband in e. She nearly choked on her drink she was laughing that much.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Right I'm going to treat myself to my cheese and onion on toast tonight. I don't have it too often, and if you're a regular in Sassy's recipe thread you'll understand why.

Takes a while to prepare and cook so will catch you all later. Hope you all have a good evening folks.

 

[roydo]

Think the cockney rhyming slang takes some beating. Apples and Pears and all that.

Nah. The ability to lightly insult someone in Liverpool can include pretty much any word. See it on here all the time. My Brother has gone full Cornish, been down there 10 years or so. He sounds daft cos his wife and kids have not a trace of the accent!

 

[Harryflashman]

I think other than on his own fan club site , if he has one , or when he got kicked in the face by fowler this is possibly the most Mentions this weapon has ever had in an 8 hour period .

 

[bigjonny]

If anyone’s interested in the roots of our accent (amongst other things) I can recommend this book. It’s quite “academic“ in parts , not surprisingly as the author is Professor of English at Leeds uni..He’s from the Dingle and a really nice bloke , I went to the launch of another of his books at Waterstones and spoke to him briefly. He describes how “scouser” came in to use in the early ‘60s most people described themselves as Liverpudlian up to then and previously some as Liverpolitans. I think I’ve got quite a soft south-Liverpool accent but I’ve had Americans thinking I’m Irish and two English blokes in Cologne thought I was Irish.

 

[Gwladysover]

Names of cities - Armagh was an answer on Pointless today @Armaghtoffee .

 

[Gwladysover]

An update on my visit to the optician who was very apologetic that my concerns over my new prescription not being suitable hadn’t been addressed. A further test showed that the prism in the lens could be adjusted which along with exercises should alleviate the double vision, it will take a couple of months but I’m hopeful. Thanks for all the good wishes.

 

[jazzy]

Think the most common ones down here are proper job, dreckly and ansom. You hear them all the time if you listen out, especially ansom.

I've been called ansom once or twice since I've been down here. One drunk old lady in a pub in Falmouth once said to Cal, es proper ansom your usband in e. She nearly choked on her drink she was laughing that much.

I can picture my mum saying just that !