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2019/20 Michael Keane

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No. It took me a couple of times watching the replay to even see what the foul was meant to be for
I pretty much agree. Technically it was a foul to the letter of the law but probably not to the naked eye, which I can only assume is why it wasn't originally called one on the field. The ridiculous error the ref made was letting VAR decide it for him and not even bothering to go check it again himself before deciding. He just pointed at the spot and basically said his original call was wrong. Nice credibility there, Madley.
 
I didn't think it was a foul, I think we win the game if its not given - but, having watched it numerous times again, Keane was again caught out with a long ball over the top, his positioning is bad, he's let the striker get behind him and is then putting himself in a position to be clumsy and give VAR a decision to make. I'm not making the decision as its wrong, but Keane is a total liability
 
I didn't think it was a foul, I think we win the game if its not given - but, having watched it numerous times again, Keane was again caught out with a long ball over the top, his positioning is bad, he's let the striker get behind him and is then putting himself in a position to be clumsy and give VAR a decision to make. I'm not making the decision as its wrong, but Keane is a total liability

I thought Keane was immense at the end of last season, now he looks like Koeman is back in charge. He is clearly mentally weak, and unable to break out of a cycle of terrible form.

Character is so important, although you obviously would want a mix of characters. Whatever you said about Moyes, he had fighters in his teams. He nearly signed Bellamy but when he met him, he disliked his attitude and decided not to sign him. We have so many spineless players it is no surprise we can't respond when we go behind. What we would give for a Stubbs, Weir, Carsley or Cahill at the minute.
 
Holgate is also tosh lets not get carried away boys.

Keane is good enough for the bench, Mason needs booting to WBA or the like and we need a top quality partner to go alongside big Mina.
Mason has more defensive awareness in his little finger than this carthorse. I’m not having people blaming VAR for his never-ending incompetence. Get tight to a forward by all means, but treading on his foot whilst running alongside? ffs.
 

Brighton are usually a good footballing team under Potter, but against us they just launched the ball towards Michael Keane and played from there.

Teams do this all the time. Put the ball in his general area and he loses the plot. Got to be his last season here.
 
Being shown week after week that he has no idea of what's going on around him,struggles for pace on the turn(if you can call it that) If we don't get a replacement in January it's going to be a long hard season and if Silva continues to play him when Mina is fit it tells you all you'll ever need to know about him as a coach.
 

I am correct in saying that the ref has to call for VAR?
He can, but the VAR ref can also ping the actual ref through the little thingie (technical term) in his ear to say they're going to take another look.

End of the day it's still supposed to go back to the actual ref to make the call. Madley didn't ever look again, which allowed VAR to make that final call. Idiotic.
 
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Struggling to think of another frequent England international centre back who is this mentally weak and who cant turn.

As an example, comparing him to a 38(?) year old Richard Gough and you can see neither could turn but Gough was so positionally astute...

I actually think Jagielka would do a better job.
 

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