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2017/18 Michael Keane
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Every week I find myself surprised at how bad he is. Incredibly slow. Serious lack of awareness of what’s happening around him. Plays with very little urgency or passion.
LydiateLee
Player Valuation: £8m
Terrible buy.
Weak and gutless, no positional sense, doesn't learn from mistakes.
Get rid in the summer.
Weak and gutless, no positional sense, doesn't learn from mistakes.
Get rid in the summer.
toffee-L
Player Valuation: £20m
I've been in the "don't write him off" camp this season but my confidence in that conviction has been badly shaken by his performance today. He got absolutely abused on the deck and in the air by Ashley Barnes of all people - completely bullied. If you can't contain a yard dog like him, having trained with him for a long time and presumably pretty knowledgeable about his game you've got to question whether Keane has the mind and the stomach to reach the heights that we thought he'd get to when we bought him.
Worrying day at the office for this lad. As for the absolute carthorse he had next to him mind you, I only wish he was banned for 10 games.
Worrying day at the office for this lad. As for the absolute carthorse he had next to him mind you, I only wish he was banned for 10 games.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
First of all, the Burnley game plan had nothing to do with attacking Keane, it was attacking Martina with pace, which is why Lennon was put out there and they tried to get him the ball every chance they got.
Second of all, Keane is fast. So AGAIN, let's stop the mythology here. Is he playing fast? No.
I agree with Davek to an extent. The level of defensive organization under both Koeman AND Sam has been terrible. THAT BEING SAID, I'm not sure what you do about the complete lack of awareness and recognition that he shows at times. That really seems like it should be somewhat inherent.
I hated the signing, but thought he showed promise until he got hurt early. The only thing I'll say is that he's flanked by Williams and Martina. I mean, wow. But I'd still try Mori and Holgate.
Second of all, Keane is fast. So AGAIN, let's stop the mythology here. Is he playing fast? No.
I agree with Davek to an extent. The level of defensive organization under both Koeman AND Sam has been terrible. THAT BEING SAID, I'm not sure what you do about the complete lack of awareness and recognition that he shows at times. That really seems like it should be somewhat inherent.
I hated the signing, but thought he showed promise until he got hurt early. The only thing I'll say is that he's flanked by Williams and Martina. I mean, wow. But I'd still try Mori and Holgate.
ah11984
Player Valuation: £25m
Couldn't have put it better mate. Right on the money !
Showed it almost every time today when Ashley Barnes bound past him into the channels
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Mate. Let it go. He’s not fast, never has been, never will be. He moves like a mixture between a lame orangutan and a penguin. He’s an absolute joke of a centre half.
BernieH
Player Valuation: £35m
Lennon is a right winger, probably why he was on the right wing, not really a purposeful tactic by Dyche although getting the ball to him probably was.
NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
Shocking really it is a basic requirement for any centre back is awareness. Keane and Williams right pair of flimsy wet muppets they were proper mugged off today, embarrassment.
Socrates1882
Player Valuation: £150k
Burnley fan here with my two penneth.
I was shocked at just how poor Michael Keane was today. He was bloody awful and a shadow of the player I watched last season.
Just a couple of points i’d like to make :-
1. Keane is pretty rapid, I promise you. He may not be showing it now but he was the fastest player at our club last season.
2. This “Ben Mee” covered for him thing. Ben Mee is a Burnley hero but he’s a pretty basic defender who is incredibly brave. He’s not Cannavaro or anything like that.
I can only put it down to our system and - to be frank - Everton’s absolute lack of one. At Burnley our centre halves know that when we don’t have the ball his other centre half is no more than 6-8 yards away from him, his central midfielders are in front of him, his full back is tucked in and the winger is tracking back. Today you could have driven a bus through the space between Keane and Martina and DCL did not help him at all.
No centre half likes a ball in behind him and running back toward their own goal but we forced Keane to do that all game. Keane with the game in front of him is a vastly different player, I promise you.
What I will say is that he did not look up for it at all today. He was neither touch tight to Barnes or sitting off to pick up the flicks. He was just in no-man’s land meaning Barnes wasn’t pressured when the ball was played into him at all. His face ...... he just looked terrified. Was odd to see.
Just one last word - Ashley f’ing Williams. He was utterly dreadful today and he wants shooting for that second goal and the sending off. There’s a vid doing the rounds on Twitter where he swung an elbow at Wood about 5 minutes before he got sent off too - real lucky to get away with that.
I don’t like Allardyce, I think he’s a dick. His interview and his smirk during it angered me so God knows how it made you lot feel. Fingers crossed you bin him off soon.
I was shocked at just how poor Michael Keane was today. He was bloody awful and a shadow of the player I watched last season.
Just a couple of points i’d like to make :-
1. Keane is pretty rapid, I promise you. He may not be showing it now but he was the fastest player at our club last season.
2. This “Ben Mee” covered for him thing. Ben Mee is a Burnley hero but he’s a pretty basic defender who is incredibly brave. He’s not Cannavaro or anything like that.
I can only put it down to our system and - to be frank - Everton’s absolute lack of one. At Burnley our centre halves know that when we don’t have the ball his other centre half is no more than 6-8 yards away from him, his central midfielders are in front of him, his full back is tucked in and the winger is tracking back. Today you could have driven a bus through the space between Keane and Martina and DCL did not help him at all.
No centre half likes a ball in behind him and running back toward their own goal but we forced Keane to do that all game. Keane with the game in front of him is a vastly different player, I promise you.
What I will say is that he did not look up for it at all today. He was neither touch tight to Barnes or sitting off to pick up the flicks. He was just in no-man’s land meaning Barnes wasn’t pressured when the ball was played into him at all. His face ...... he just looked terrified. Was odd to see.
Just one last word - Ashley f’ing Williams. He was utterly dreadful today and he wants shooting for that second goal and the sending off. There’s a vid doing the rounds on Twitter where he swung an elbow at Wood about 5 minutes before he got sent off too - real lucky to get away with that.
I don’t like Allardyce, I think he’s a dick. His interview and his smirk during it angered me so God knows how it made you lot feel. Fingers crossed you bin him off soon.
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