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2017/18 Michael Keane

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There is no doubt we need a severe root and branch change to our playing staff. However I am still undecided about Keane, I know he has struggled when he has played and his performances for Everton don't give me confidence that he can develop into the type of defender we need but then I think he played himself into the England team and helped Burnley establish themselves so there is obviously a footballer in there.
My position on him is that if we could recoup our money, or very near the amount, I would sell and invest in another centre half. I feel we would be lucky to get enough for him to buy quality so I would hang on to him and try and pair him with a faster player who can cover for lack of pace. We should be able to build a defensive unit that works as opposed to four individuals, 6 if you count holding mid-field.
 
It's not 18months always is it? Clearly others ive mentioned before and after that timeframe.



If that was the case then they wouldn't be playing football professionally...

Ive simply pointed out players...some whove been sold for huge money (and also some whove flopped) who could be purchased at reasonable fees a decent amount of time before going for larger amounts.

Clearly players like Lozano, Kluivert, Torreira and Kessie (who I wanted again 18months ago) are well known now...but we'd still do well to sign them.

But these players, the whole world knows about them.

Like for example, Kessie joined Milan, these arent unknown players you are "scouting", these are yoot players that the entire world knows about.

Its like you think you find these players under a rock and that we should buy them before everybody finds out about them.

Its utterly comical.
 
But these players, the whole world knows about them.

Like for example, Kessie joined Milan, these arent unknown players you are "scouting", these are yoot players that the entire world knows about.

Its like you think you find these players under a rock and that we should buy them before everybody finds out about them.

Its utterly comical.

Where did I say "no one knows about them"

What are you on about?

I've stated certain players should be signed before they are signed by others...e.g if 6-12-18 months before Kessie moved wouldn't he have been cheaper? Wouldn't Sanchez have been lower than the 45mil spurs signed him for...well obviously.

Youre losing it...I think you should relinquish the GOAT.
 
Where did I say "no one knows about them"

What are you on about?

I've stated certain players should be signed before they are signed by others...e.g if 6-12-18 months before Kessie moved wouldn't he have been cheaper? Wouldn't Sanchez have been lower than the 45mil spurs signed him for...well obviously.

Youre losing it...I think you should relinquish the GOAT.

Sadly Zat you have no comprehension of how modern football works, so lets just leave this here.

If only we bought Messi at age 16 hey.
 

But these players, the whole world knows about them.

Like for example, Kessie joined Milan, these arent unknown players you are "scouting", these are yoot players that the entire world knows about.

Its like you think you find these players under a rock and that we should buy them before everybody finds out about them.

Its utterly comical.

Well, perhaps not the entire world?



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Does this Kessie fella play in a Mane role?

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Sadly Zat you have no comprehension of how modern football works, so lets just leave this here.

If only we bought Messi at age 16 hey.

And yet this year we need a centre midfielder and a proper sitting DM...in your own words;


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Zat spending 80m on CMs when we have them falling out of the cupboards, what a day.

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And more...highly rating our central positions while I said to get rid of most of them...



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TheGeeseofGoodisonRoad said:
those two would cost at most 50 tho, milan are paying 28 for kessie i think
Right, so thats 50m in an area where we have Morgs, Gana, Davies, Besic, McCarthy, Barry and Barkley, whilst we CURRENTLY have DCL as back up to Rom.

Makes sense.

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Interesting...
 

Well, perhaps not the entire world?



MoutsGoat All the hail The King Forum Supporter

Does this Kessie fella play in a Mane role?

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And yet this year we need a centre midfielder and a proper sitting DM...in your own words;


MoutsGoat All the hail The King Forum Supporter


Zat spending 80m on CMs when we have them falling out of the cupboards, what a day.

MoutsGoat, May 19, 2017 Report
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And more...highly rating our central positions while I said to get rid of most of them...



MoutsGoat All the hail The King Forum Supporter
TheGeeseofGoodisonRoad said:
those two would cost at most 50 tho, milan are paying 28 for kessie i think
Right, so thats 50m in an area where we have Morgs, Gana, Davies, Besic, McCarthy, Barry and Barkley, whilst we CURRENTLY have DCL as back up to Rom.

Makes sense.

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Interesting...

Im not sure what your point is here Zat, we still have CMs falling out the cupboards, we sold Rom, we lost Barry and Barkley.

Our needs now are different than the past.

If your gonna try vaulting me, at least make it relevant.

Im the easiest person to vault on the whole forum, its not difficult to vault me at all.

I say different things every single day.

Go and read my squad threads if you want my real viewpoint on things.
 
Last point on this.

It just winds me up, people name all these yoot players, lets use Sessygone for example.

His name will be getting mentioned on every single football forum in the world, hes a very highly rated player. People think we have a chance of getting him, based on what im not sure.

Somebody will buy and everybody will go mad "ffs everton, why you no buy him 18months ago when he was cheaper and available".

Newsflash, he wasnt available, Fulham are aware what they have, they probably have been aware for the last 5 years.



Anyway, this is the Keane thread.

At times he looks a decent player, at times hes horrific, seems to be quite a sensitive fella. Hopefully with some decent coaching and a decent manager he can grow into the player he shows in bursts. Im not totally convinced by the fella at all tho frankly.
 

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