Migrant Crisis

[Frank Gallagher]

This is a video of refugees arriving at Hungary and refusing food and water. They are throwing it onto the tracks because they do not want to stay in Hungary. They want to move on to an MEDC. They want to move to Germany or Sweden. Places where they will receive more money and better housing for free. They do not want to move because Hungary is a war-torn country like Syria. They simply want more for free.

Now, here is a quote from a Syrian on that very train:



But they were just offered food and water, weren't they? Hmm. Something isn't right. What possible reason could they have for refusing food and water when the have pregnant women on the train? Oh yeah, because they are in a safe country but deem that to not be enough.

People are saying that our government needs to accept more refugees and that anyone who disagrees is 'heartless'. Know what I think is pretty heartless?



This is a video of a man throwing his wife and baby child onto the train tracks in protest of not being moved on to Germany. That child is no more than twelve months old. A knock on the head can cause significant brain damage. Being thrown to the ground could kill him. Not to mention that his wife could be pregnant.

These refugees do not care about the safety of their wives and children. This is why that little boy drowned. This is why more will continue to drown. They all want to go to Western Europe and that just isn't possible, so they will do anything that they think will help them get there, including risking their family's lives to move from a safe country (i.e. Turkey, Hungary) to Western Europe.

THIS ^^^^ ..... hungarys no good, we want Germany or the UK! get us there NOW!!

 

[peteblue]

Agree with your points other than the bit about Germany. Can't comment about what it was like 15 years ago in Dortmund but the news last night had a survey which showed most Germans are in favour (more so in the west than the east) of letting them in and the main difference of opinion is whether they stick with the current numbers or start letting in more.

I think it's great if Germany opens it's doors, they have the space and the houses in place. But before they try to lecture the UK they should first look elsewhere........

 

[oldblue]

These refugees do not care about the safety of their wives and children.

so much else to deal with there. but this bit stands out as the most clear sign of brainwashed nonsense. No comment really. But I really can only suggest having a think about why this may not be true. If you come up with nothing, then fair enough and good luck in the world you live in

 

[Fresh Prince of Belle Val]

This is a video of refugees arriving at Hungary and refusing food and water. They are throwing it onto the tracks because they do not want to stay in Hungary. They want to move on to an MEDC. They want to move to Germany or Sweden. Places where they will receive more money and better housing for free. They do not want to move because Hungary is a war-torn country like Syria. They simply want more for free.

Now, here is a quote from a Syrian on that very train:



But they were just offered food and water, weren't they? Hmm. Something isn't right. What possible reason could they have for refusing food and water when the have pregnant women on the train? Oh yeah, because they are in a safe country but deem that to not be enough.

People are saying that our government needs to accept more refugees and that anyone who disagrees is 'heartless'. Know what I think is pretty heartless?



This is a video of a man throwing his wife and baby child onto the train tracks in protest of not being moved on to Germany. That child is no more than twelve months old. A knock on the head can cause significant brain damage. Being thrown to the ground could kill him. Not to mention that his wife could be pregnant.

These refugees do not care about the safety of their wives and children. This is why that little boy drowned. This is why more will continue to drown. They all want to go to Western Europe and that just isn't possible, so they will do anything that they think will help them get there, including risking their family's lives to move from a safe country (i.e. Turkey, Hungary) to Western Europe.

Fantastic post

 

[SNova]

so much else to deal with there. but this bit stands out as the most clear sign of brainwashed nonsense. No comment really. But I really can only suggest having a think about why this may not be true. If you come up with nothing, then fair enough and good luck in the world you live in

I also disagree with that comment.
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Someone mentioned earlier, the media bias. Another example I have to point out is that it's mainly young men with no families who have came over, yet the media likes to film the women and children.

 

[oldblue]

exactly which is why anyone who rejects doctrine that separates people and takes from it just what brings them closer to others is to be admired, supported and not made to feel under threat because of what they wear, the colour of their skin or where they choose to pray.
And trust me there are people in this country who are Muslim, who keep it to themselves as much as I keep any religious views I have to myself unless asked, and they are scared by this non stop rhetoric. There are people who have lived here for generations who feel under threat because their families were originally from a country that people are now relating to Islam.
As has been said, if one person suffers because of a stereotype they did not create then it is an inhumane crime.

I agree completely.[/QUOTE]
so no more random stereotyping and we welcome all people until they break any law?

 

[Jxg]

so much else to deal with there. but this bit stands out as the most clear sign of brainwashed nonsense. No comment really. But I really can only suggest having a think about why this may not be true. If you come up with nothing, then fair enough and good luck in the world you live in

So you have no response to me, other than to say that it's "brainwashed nonsense"?

When the entire media, even the Daily bloody Mail, is speaking of the horrible treatment of refugees and suggesting that we accept more, you're saying that actual videos of the situation are "brainwashed nonsense"?

You're telling me to think about why this isn't true?

You want me to make up some points about why I'm wrong?

I wouldn't feed my dog the kind of tripe you're spewing up.

 

[Fresh Prince of Belle Val]

I agree completely.
so no more random stereotyping and we welcome all people until they break any law?

All people? So effectively an open door to anybody? Sounds like madness.

 

[SNova]

so no more random stereotyping and we welcome all people until they break any law?

I don't agree with your accusation.

 

[oldblue]

I also disagree with that comment.
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Someone mentioned earlier, the media bias. Another example I have to point out is that it's mainly young men with no families who have came over, yet the media likes to film the women and children.

no they don't. people have just been more touched by those deaths than the deaths of young men. The media are more than happy to show gangs of young men. Are you really suggesting the mainstream media is pro-immigration? Quite a lot of research been done to suggest otherwise. I thought we were on the same side of universal brotherhood?

 

[oldblue]

so no more random stereotyping and we welcome all people until they break any law?

I don't agree with your accusation.[/QUOTE]
what accusation? it is a question

 

[SNova]

no they don't. people have just been more touched by those deaths than the deaths of young men. The media are more than happy to show gangs of young men. Are you really suggesting the mainstream media is pro-immigration? Quite a lot of research been done to suggest otherwise. I thought we were on the same side of universal brotherhood?

The BBC news is very left wing. As is channel 4 news.

They are much more likely to film women and children amongst the many many young men.

 

[SNova]

what accusation? it is a question

I assumed you were referring to one of my posts.

 

[oldblue]

So you have no response to me, other than to say that it's "brainwashed nonsense"?

When the entire media, even the Daily bloody Mail, is speaking of the horrible treatment of refugees and suggesting that we accept more, you're saying that actual videos of the situation are "brainwashed nonsense"?

You're telling me to think about why this isn't true?

You want me to make up some points about why I'm wrong?

I wouldn't feed my dog the kind of tripe you're spewing up.

yep. brainwashed nonsense. You have selected imagery to try to prove an incredible generalisation and ignored overwhelming evidence that implies the opposite. It is extreme confirmation bias at best. Brainwashing at worst

 

[Frank Gallagher]

yep. brainwashed nonsense. You have selected imagery to try to prove an incredible generalisation and ignored overwhelming evidence that implies the opposite. It is extreme confirmation bias at best. Brainwashing at worst

ok mate