2020/21 Moise Kean

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Well read memorable = won in the context of the point I was making.

Ajax got a semi, RBL got a semi, no one cares about them really.

Erm, this is what you put:

"When’s the last time a team from France did anything memorable in Europe? Even oil rich PSG haven’t won anything."

Two separate statements there Nymz. Semantics maybe but 'memorable' doesn't always equate to winning (as Liverpool fans love to tell us).

People were raving about that Ajax team and still do. And they also praised RB Leipzig last season, and Atalanta getting to the quarters.
 
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It is going to be hard to buy a striker as good as DCL at this point. Kean was actually a good attempt, but even he didn't really have a case to be playing instead. I agree we shouldn't buy players viewing them as backups but that is what the situation is going to cause a striker signing to be.

Of course it'll be hard, but we don't need a player that's just a 'striker'.

The player we need has to be an all-round forward - if we're playing 4-3-3.

Someone who can play instead of or alongside James/Richarlison/DCL, whether that means one of them sitting on the bench for a game or two or James dropping back.

They're probably never gonna have the creativity of James, which is fine, he's one of a kind, but if they can bring a bit of what Richarlison can bring in terms of attacking positioning, then it gives us options.

Plea, Thuram, Zaha, Matheus Cunha or Dudi Lukebakio from Hertha Berlin, Sarr. That type of profile. Quick, powerful players capable of playing anywhere across the line.

As a stop-gap, King would have been okay and would have given us that type of player, albeit not at the standard which would make us top-four contenders - but he would have meant our back-up options weren't Iwobi or Bernard or Tosun.

We're hardly gonna have our first-choice XI fully fit through the season. We'll be lucky to get 12-15 games out of them as a full side IMO.

It's where our side falls down - complete lack of decent depth in key areas.

Btw, I agree with you on Kean. In an ideal world he'd have stayed and we'd have still got someone in, getting rid of useless Walcott and having that extra bit of quality in there instead.
 
I thought he looked lively first half , creating the goal and the penalty. Second half made you realise how difficult it could be to fit him in to our team or any PL team. His work rate is pretty low , even James seems to sprint more, and he often seemed not to move into a position to receive the ball , but was behind behind a couple of defenders. The skill level is there, I’m just not sure we see it enough in a game. But he’s still only 20 years old , this season could be the making of him and we’ve potentially got him until 2024 so time is on his and our side.
 
Lyon got to the Champions League semi-finals and PSG into the final literally three months ago.

Monaco got to the semis with a brilliant team in 2016.

Lyon absolutely rinsed us (admittedly a very poor version of us) three years ago - Marseille got to the 2017-18 Europa League final.

Remember Marseille winning the European Cup.
 
Remember Marseille winning the European Cup.

to be fair to Nymzee I do think he meant just recently - 27 years is a long time ago - but I just didn't agree with him that French teams haven't done 'memorable' things in recent seasons.

The league will definitely suit Kean better, as will playing in Europe. A different intensity to the games and he plays in a team fully capable of dominating pretty much every game they play in.
 

to be fair to Nymzee I do think he meant just recently - 27 years is a long time ago - but I just didn't agree with him that French teams haven't done 'memorable' things in recent seasons.

The league will definitely suit Kean better, as will playing in Europe. A different intensity to the games and he plays in a team fully capable of dominating pretty much every game they play in.

Ha I remember taping the game.

Kean is a supreme talent in my opinion mate, it’s on us if we can’t get the best out of him here in my opinion.
 
Of course it'll be hard, but we don't need a player that's just a 'striker'.

The player we need has to be an all-round forward - if we're playing 4-3-3.

Someone who can play instead of or alongside James/Richarlison/DCL, whether that means one of them sitting on the bench for a game or two or James dropping back.

They're probably never gonna have the creativity of James, which is fine, he's one of a kind, but if they can bring a bit of what Richarlison can bring in terms of attacking positioning, then it gives us options.

Plea, Thuram, Zaha, Matheus Cunha or Dudi Lukebakio from Hertha Berlin, Sarr. That type of profile. Quick, powerful players capable of playing anywhere across the line.

As a stop-gap, King would have been okay and would have given us that type of player, albeit not at the standard which would make us top-four contenders - but he would have meant our back-up options weren't Iwobi or Bernard or Tosun.

We're hardly gonna have our first-choice XI fully fit through the season. We'll be lucky to get 12-15 games out of them as a full side IMO.

It's where our side falls down - complete lack of decent depth in key areas.

Btw, I agree with you on Kean. In an ideal world he'd have stayed and we'd have still got someone in, getting rid of useless Walcott and having that extra bit of quality in there instead.
I think we could maybe just sign a striker and a winger. I like all the players you mentioned but they aren't plentiful.
 
He's gash in our league and doesn't have the stones to knuckle down for it. Scoring a few goals in some frog league etc. is meh
 

5 years time when he scores for udinese against parma this thread will come to the top again with see, he's the chosen one.
For whatever reason the biggest factor is he didnt want to be here.
 
I thought he looked lively first half , creating the goal and the penalty. Second half made you realise how difficult it could be to fit him in to our team or any PL team. His work rate is pretty low , even James seems to sprint more, and he often seemed not to move into a position to receive the ball , but was behind behind a couple of defenders. The skill level is there, I’m just not sure we see it enough in a game. But he’s still only 20 years old , this season could be the making of him and we’ve potentially got him until 2024 so time is on his and our side.

Sound very much like a certain Mario Ballotelli
 
I thought he looked lively first half , creating the goal and the penalty. Second half made you realise how difficult it could be to fit him in to our team or any PL team. His work rate is pretty low , even James seems to sprint more, and he often seemed not to move into a position to receive the ball , but was behind behind a couple of defenders. The skill level is there, I’m just not sure we see it enough in a game. But he’s still only 20 years old , this season could be the making of him and we’ve potentially got him until 2024 so time is on his and our side.
He literally created a goal through sheer hard work and still got called lazy in the same game. Amazing work.
 

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