Moyes Potential Replacement

[bluebottle]

He would do with us, Wigan aren't very consistent in fact they are exactly like us, having a good 2nd half of the season.

Where do you envisage us finishing with Martinez?

 

[ToffeeMike]

Wigan are 18th -- they probably need to be defensive almost every single game they play. They should probably be MORE defensive actually. Regardless ...

I would pretty much have no way to ever conclude a team other than Everton is "bottling" it under that criteria because I don't watch enough non-EFC football to come to that conclusion with any certainty.

Which brings me to this: not trying to be funny but how much have you watched Martinez's teams? Not looking to judge you if you've watched a lot ... this is a genuine question. Have you watched his teams often enough to really know for sure how he reacts to those types of situations? Not just once or twice you saw him bring on an attacking sub -- that doesn't mean he does that all the time. Have you genuinely seen it enough times to conclude you like his style?

Tbh mate, I'm not saying I know everything about him but I watched Swansea when he was manager. Good attacking football and if he was managing our team now, that attacking football would get us to a much higher position than we are now with the current players we've got.

 

[Stend]

OK it is unfair to compare Everton and Wigan due to resources (after all they spend £20m a year less than us on wages)

But perfectly fair to compare Everton to Liverpool (they only spend £100m more than us a year)

There's virtually no difference in team quality between us and LIVERPOOL. It's massive between us and Wigan. That's the point.

 

[ToffeeMike]

Where do you envisage us finishing with Martinez?

5th/ fighting for 4th with the current squad. He'd keep that balance until the board found some money to put into the club.

 

[Stend]

Not sure you should be name calling mate.

Don't call me mate.

 

[Groucho]

You can't compare Moyes win percentage against Martinez. For the fact that he hasnt managed Everton. To even give that as a point is ridiculous. The gulf in quality of both squads is ridiculous.

In reality Martinez should be able to do a much better job here than at Wigan an ape could agree with that.

Disagree, and I'm not an ape! His resources there wouldn't be that much different here. Why aren't Wigan higher in the league?

 

[Stend]

Disagree, and I'm not an ape! His resources there wouldn't be that much different here. Why aren't Wigan higher in the league?

Pretty simple. Moyes has a much much much much better squad of players.

 

[Groucho]

Not sure you should be name calling mate.

Don't call me mate.

This stops now please.

Pretty simple. Moyes has a much much much much better squad of players.

Fair point

 

[Duncan Disordely]

There's virtually no difference in team quality between us and LIVERPOOL. It's massive between us and Wigan. That's the point.

Well that's down to the managers, no?

Wigan have spent similar to us the last few years

 

[Stend]

Well that's down to the managers, no?

Wigan have spent similar to us the last few years

No it's not. We are a much much much more attractive club to sign for than Wigan. We pay better wages. Etc etc.

 

[Bigmaclad]

Wigan have finished lower under Martinez than they did under Bruce, just saying

 

[thebluefox]

Don't call me mate.

now then no need for that

 

[bluebottle]

5th/ fighting for 4th with the current squad. He'd keep that balance until the board found some money to put into the club.

Possibly its just me, but we are there already pretty much, with a bit of money to spend for a guy who tends to spend it pretty well. Do we need to replace Moyes with a guy who isnt going to improve us all that much, with a risk of him getting it seriously wrong?

 

[Duncan Disordely]

No it's not. We are a much much much more attractive club to sign for than Wigan. We pay better wages. Etc etc.

Villa, Newcastle, QPR and Sunderland pay higher wages than us. Do they have better teams than us?

 

[Bluenose1995]

5th/ fighting for 4th with the current squad. He'd keep that balance until the board found some money to put into the club.

mid table IMO would flog Felliani for £25 mil and by Mccarthy for £15 mil FML