Moyes Potential Replacement

[Jags..class]

If Southampton can get Pochetinno and Swansea can get Laudrup I see no reason why Everton couldn't get Frank de Boer. Foreign managers love the Premier League and we shouldn't undersell ourselves. Outside the "Big 6" we are the best job in England.

This is what the rs said and ended up with Brendon Rodgers

 

[Blue 1]

Nobody currently employed elsewhere because we couldn't afford the compo to the other club.

 

[Blue_Berry]

The speed at which all this has happened means it's highly unlikely Moyes hasn't known about it for at least a little while. If we don't move swiftly to replace him it'll be pretty clear Moyes didn't tell Kenwright until the last minute. I can't help but be a little bit annoyed at that.

I hope we don't do anything like the weird X-Factor-ish rubbish Liverpool did last year, inviting every average manager under 45 to have an interview and getting mostly rejected. Still, none of the obvious candidates get me all that excited:

Laudrup: He's taken a decent footballing side, although one often toothless, and made them a little better without compromising their style. Won a trophy in his first season. Has nice hair and a handsome face that belies his years. Bit of a journeyman, though: if he came to us it would mean he's quit his last four clubs after a single year or less. What we absolutely cannot afford to do is play this short-term. It would be a total disaster.

Martinez: Nice chap who plays nice football. Impossibly young considering his experience, and has managed to get an unappealing rabble of a squad generally kicking the ball to the correct players. However, he's had four years at Wigan and hasn't actually improved them in terms of league placement. He's been largely inept at figuring out a way to sort his defence, and it looks like he'll see Wigan relegated next week. His hairline shows a similar defensive weakness, although he has a sweet face.

Benitez: Let's be honest; he's a good manager. If he came we'd probably do pretty well, even better than with Moyes. However, he's known as somebody who pressures boards for transfer budgets, and the impossibility of being lavish in the market is unlikely to appeal to him. There's also a few painful examples of looking like a massive t*t in interviews, and the fahct he's the type of FSW that stands watching from the dark corner of the dining room in the Benidorm Pink Flamingo while young Pablo intimates to your wife the orgasms he will bestow upon her.

Mackay: Basically the new Moyes - very similar career path and background. He'd be wise, I think, to snap our hand off if he was offered the job. At least that's what the likes of McDermott, Houghton and Adkins might tell him. But he's done well at Cardiff and there's a chance he'll want to stick with them. He has them playing a solid sort of football that makes him more like a Lambert than a Martinez/Rodgers guy, or, in fact, a Moyes guy. Looks a bit like an 80s cyborg.


Not sure who else? A foreign manager seems unlikely, although Vítor Pereira has been mentioned. Not sure about him: he inherited a dominant Porto team but lost a few key player too. He's handsome enough, I suppose.

Funny, but I think the real evidence of David Moyes's managerial quality won't come from Old Trafford. If he does well, any praise will be diluted by the fact he inherited Ferguson's legacy, and had the old whiskey [Poor language removed] at his shoulder throughout. How another manager does with the squad he built might say a lot more.

N.B: I'm ignoring Hughes and Allardyce. They can [Poor language removed] right off.

Good point about Laudrup moving around quickly, but he's clearly an up-and-coming star in the making, with great pedigree. Perhaps he's holding out for the right opportunity while he sets out his stall (and he's going about that very well). He wasn't even a distant contender in the 'who replaces Fergie?' discussion, so he clearly needs to gain a lot more experience. He might also be encouraged by the Moyes model - look where that's just got him?! It's mainly potential, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.

However I really can't understand the backing for Benitez. Even taking off my blue-nose specs (?!), he is NOT a good manager. He's been living off a good season or two at Valencia - he has had success, but only where he has been able to spend massively on players who genuinely can turn games, or he has inherited squads that were expensively put together. You could argue at Inter he was found out. For the RS he enjoyed a good first season with a strong squad and the ability to go out and buy match-winners like Torres. But tactically he is inept. People may forget he was the godfather of rotation - and that's why his last seasons at the RS were so poor. I can't fathom how people (in particular kopites) claim he won them the European Champions trophy - granted they got to the final (if I recall correctly courtesy of a couple of ties with Prem league teams), but they were comprehensively outplayed for 45 mins in Istanbul, and then rescued by one man's performance. I can't imagine you achieve managerial greatness by making your half time team talk 'Stevie Lar, we're sunk - it's all down to you now'. Now if i put my blue nose specs back on, I'll think of another 25 reasons why he's a non-starter...

 

[Dell Boy]

I have had a large bet on Lennon for some time now - got 40/1. I have laid money on Martinez to make sure I at least get my money back but decision time now as to whether I stick or try and lay some of the others. But who?!?

 

[Jags..class]

Martinez wants to be left alone right now as he got three massive games coming up, fair play. Wouldn't be to bothered if he came, as it could be much worse then Martinez

 

[sbbefc]

Because he beat a vastly superiour team with a squad that is inferiour to our own

Based on the maths, he should be able to do even better with a stronger squad to work with

The only thing about Lennon is whether he can get his team to perform on a weekly basis. Currently he just needs to prer for European games and the occasional game with Motherwelll in the SPL. Could he do it every week when every game is a big game?

I think yes, but that's the gamble you take

This Celtic team is by no means a vintage one and Rangers bought those prior titles in his run by illegally paying players.

I think we need someone right now who will help us be defiant in the face of the tough changes that are going to effect us. Lennon is a war time PM.

Every year in our domestic cups big teams get knocked out to vastly inferior ones. It happens. I hope to god Lennon isn't our manager next season.

 

[jackfaz]

Nobody currently employed elsewhere because we couldn't afford the compo to the other club.

Could we not though? If it's the right man for the job I'm sure compensation wouldn't be a problem. We managed to scrape together some money for Fer remember. With the new TV money I'd be amazed if compensation was a stumbling block in the acquisition of the managers that have been mentioned.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

You are forgetting the plain fact that he is an absolute tit!

I honestly don't think that matters mate

It's his football managment acumen that I care about. If he can help Everton then he's okay with me (Provided he does it within the rules, which I think he would. Say what you want about Lennon, but I don't think he's a cheater)

 

[hallamblue]

This is what the rs said and ended up with Brendon Rodgers

They wanted Brendan Rodgers or Martinez. They could have had any number of foreign coaches.

 

[kenada_blue]

Good point about Laudrup moving around quickly, but he's clearly an up-and-coming star in the making, with great pedigree. Perhaps he's holding out for the right opportunity while he sets out his stall (and he's going about that very well). He wasn't even a distant contender in the 'who replaces Fergie?' discussion, so he clearly needs to gain a lot more experience. He might also be encouraged by the Moyes model - look where that's just got him?! It's mainly potential, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.

However I really can't understand the backing for Benitez. Even taking off my blue-nose specs (?!), he is NOT a good manager. He's been living off a good season or two at Valencia - he has had success, but only where he has been able to spend massively on players who genuinely can turn games, or he has inherited squads that were expensively put together. You could argue at Inter he was found out. For the RS he enjoyed a good first season with a strong squad and the ability to go out and buy match-winners like Torres. But tactically he is inept. People may forget he was the godfather of rotation - and that's why his last seasons at the RS were so poor. I can't fathom how people (in particular kopites) claim he won them the European Champions trophy - granted they got to the final (if I recall correctly courtesy of a couple of ties with Prem league teams), but they were comprehensively outplayed for 45 mins in Istanbul, and then rescued by one man's performance. I can't imagine you achieve managerial greatness by making your half time team talk 'Stevie Lar, we're sunk - it's all down to you now'. Now if i put my blue nose specs back on, I'll think of another 25 reasons why he's a non-starter...

Laudrup - I agree, will only look at it short term.

Martinez - improvement at Wigan? FA Cup final and European football not an improvement? League, I agree.

Mackay - we should be looking higher. And he's spent money at Cardiff like. Big no.

 

[hallamblue]

I honestly don't think that matters mate

It's his football managment acumen that I care about. If he can help Everton then he's okay with me (Provided he does it within the rules, which I think he would. Say what you want about Lennon, but I don't think he's a cheater)

One of the good things about Everton is that our managers talk well and represent the club well, we do not employ gobs*ites like Benitez or Dalglish. Martinez or Laudrup fit our requirements perfectly, Neil Lennon or Mark Hughes make us no better than the shower of whnigers over the park.

 

[Dell Boy]

I have had a large bet on Lennon for some time now - got 40/1. I have laid money on Martinez to make sure I at least get my money back but decision time now as to whether I stick or try and lay some of the others. But who?!?

Ladbrokes now:

Martinez 7/4
Lennon 7/2

 

[sheeds]

I'm not convinced we would pay big compo but I suspect the laudrup media stories are coming from laudrup

 

[Barlows Boots]

Lennon???

*puts head in oven*

 

[steken1]

I'm not convinced we would pay big compo but I suspect the laudrup media stories are coming from laudrup

That he want's to come?