Moyes sacked by United

[faddy the blue]

He would have had the backing of the board, I would say after the worst season in two decades and watching the current champions sitting in 7th place may have swayed them

Why does it matter if it's a 20 year contract or 2, He failed in every possible way in the job

Throughout the season there were reports of players being unhappy with his methods and then that plane banner didn't helo him either. He did fail in every aspect of the job but this is when the word of such a big club has to count. He came in July and that was when City had already made moves on players etc and he didn't have the ideal transfer window but I can understand that this is modern football and contracts of 100 years or 2 mean for nothing. But once you're handpicked by arguable the greatest manager in the history of the game you'd expect to last a little longer than this.

Question is, who'd take Moyes now?

 

[toffee matt]

It is odd though, how it works out with Managers. Like Tony Pullis, currently a very well thought of Prem manager was an absolute disaster at Bristol City.

The man currently sitting top of the league failed miserably at Watford and reading

 

[nigelcoyb]

Clough lasted 44 days at the then best team in the country, and he was the best manager in Europe by a country mile.

Once the players have it in for you then you are finished.

Exactly, 44 days and he had a proven record, that was a genuine coup d'etat.

Moyes has had a full season with no record and no players commitee trooping up to the Chairman's office behind his back after a fortnight as happened at Leeds.

Completely different situation he spent 65m and caved to Rooney despite Ferguson wanting shut he's proved his judgement to be as it's always been - crap.

 

[Del]

Imagine taking over the biggest club in the country after they had just won the league by 11 points, They then give you 70m to spend on the squad

Imagine 10 months later your sat in 7th with no way of finishing in the top 4 and 23 points of top spot

AVB was sacked for far less, But hey he's not British

 

[The Mighty Quint]

He went into Leeds and told them there medals ment nothing as they had cheated winning them

Totally different situation, Clough took that job to show Revie up

He got the players backs up, same as Moyes, not even the mighty Clough could get it back after that, you listen to his Forest players and they'd have run through brick walls for him.

I think my point is valid, I'm just not into this it was all Moyes and he's now a rubbish manager, it wasn't and he's not.

 

[Del]

He got the players backs up, same as Moyes, not even the mighty Clough could get it back after that, you listen to his Forest players and they'd have run through brick walls for him.

I think my point it valid, I'm just not into this it was all Moyes and he's now a rubbish manager, it wasn't and he's not.

He's not rubbish but he's never a top 4 manager

What's he ever achieved for him to be classed as a good manager

 

[roydo]

The man currently sitting top of the league failed miserably at Watford and reading

Ha, yeah. Amazing really.

 

[The Mighty Quint]

Exactly 44 days and he had a proven record, that was a genuine coup d'etat.

Moyes has had a full season with no record and no players commitee trooping up to the Chairman's office behind his back after a fortnight as happened at Leeds.

Completely different situation he spent 65m and caved to Rooney despite Ferguson wanting shut he's proved his judgement to be as it's always been - crap.

So what would you call a load of senior players going round to Fergies house to cry about Moyes then, it's very much like what happened at Leeds.

And even Clough, with a proven record, could not get them back onside, IMO it all started with Moyes going in there and working them hard in training, fitness to him is his first job to do, and the likes of RVP, Rio etc did not like it, they were use to tossing it off under Fergie, Fergie hardly took any training sessions anyway, Moyes is the exact opposite, he's totally hands on everything.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Reckon he'll be at Villa next. Spurs won't take him in the summer after the last 11 months, and even if Pardew goes, can't see Newcastle going back for him after he gave them the cold shoulder a few years back.

 

[Del]

So what would you call a load of senior players going round to Fergies house to cry about Moyes then, it's very much like what happened at Leeds.

And even Clough, with a proven record, could not get them back onside, IMO it all started with Moyes going in there and working them hard in training, fitness to him is his first job to do, and the likes of RVP, Rio etc did not like it, they were use to tossing it off under Fergie, Fergie hardly took any training sessions anyway, Moyes is the exact opposite, he's totally hands on everything.

Yer worked out well running RVP into the ground didn't it?

 

[Minimeister]

At least Seamus has his song to himself now.

 

[nigelcoyb]

He got the players backs up, same as Moyes, not even the mighty Clough could get it back after that, you listen to his Forest players and they'd have run through brick walls for him.

I think my point it valid, I'm just not into this it was all Moyes and he's now a rubbish manager, it wasn't and he's not.

Compare Martinez carefully thought out charm offensive arriving here studying tapes and books on the culture and history of this club using it to revolutionise things by stealth. Even today every chance he gets he refers to the senior pros Jags, Distin, Ossie, Howard etc and talks about "our" club and it's tradition. it's an object lesson in how to oil the wheels to get your ideas working.

Moyes went into Utd and showed Rio videos of Jags!

The man is an idiot and deserves all he gets.

 

[The Mighty Quint]

Yer worked out well running RVP into the ground didn't it?

Maybe you've got to be a little gentle with certain ego's, he probably wanted to set his stall out, that's Moyes, he runs a tight ship.

I'm not saying he has not made mistakes, I just think the players have a massive responsibility in all this.

Moyes is in our past now, I wish him well in his next job, no point us being bitter towards him, selling Fellaini for 27m and keeping Baines was exactly what we needed, then McCarthy came in.

We have come out smelling of roses, everything has worked out for the best for us Evertonian's, our future looks in very safe hands under Bobby.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Didn't know Moyes has got the second highest win percentage of all Utd managers, stats ha!

 

[roydo]

So what would you call a load of senior players going round to Fergies house to cry about Moyes then, it's very much like what happened at Leeds.

And even Clough, with a proven record, could not get them back onside, IMO it all started with Moyes going in there and working them hard in training, fitness to him is his first job to do, and the likes of RVP, Rio etc did not like it, they were use to tossing it off under Fergie, Fergie hardly took any training sessions anyway, Moyes is the exact opposite, he's totally hands on everything.

Did that really happen?