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Muhamed Besic

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Zodiak2 said:
That's harsh and to be honest unfair. Do you honestly think Moyes was the one doing the deals at OT? He was quoted throughout the summer saying he was waiting for an update on the Fabregas chase amoungst many others he wanted.

And by all accounts, it was Woodward who was inept and totally clueless in how to do a transfer.

Something else in Moyes defence, can you honestly blame him for dithering and being thoroughly sure of players before going all in?

He was given a very poor hand by our board and wasn't backed for pretty much his entire tenure.

He simply HAD to be careful because he had little dough to waste.

he got a few wrong as does every manager, but his dithering served him and US very well because he picked some absolute cracking bargains.

His transfer record stacks up against any other manager in the league.
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I would say Moyes had a big input on the transfers just like he did here. Last seasons transfer dealings when Moyes was in charge was truly embarrassing for them. This window without Moyes, they already have Herera and Shaw with Vidal likely also.

I have no ill will towards Moyes and for a good number of years he done a tremendous job for us, the only problem is I believe, he wants control of everything in the running of the club he is at, including transfers.
 
It's take a bit long to strike the deal. Is BK trying to reconstruct the payment method of the fee again？
 

Dithering Dougie said:
I'm pointing out the fact you claimed Moyes didn't have a clue in the transfer market and dithered, yet you've failed to acknowledge that our 3 most important signings last season happened on the final day in the closing hours and minutes of the transfer window. Or even the shambles that was the winter window when we clearly needed at least one new recruit for our forward line and somehow managed to get a injured player who couldn't participate for 6 weeks. The very window that prior to it opening Martinez said we'd always leave a transfer window stronger and in better shape than when we went in to it yet he let 2 players leave. Incredibly one of the players actually played in the very position we were so desperately short of numbers for and all we got in return was an injured loanie. Add this to the fact that Martinez stated he was working on deals right up to the very last minute that night as well shows to me that he's every bit as much a "Ditherer".

I'm simply suggesting you're putting a little to much faith in Martinez and his transfer dealings with not enough evidence to back it up, whilst showing Moyes no respect for what was one of his most outstanding qualities.
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To be fair ... If moyes hadn't dithered over signing felli then we could have spent the money sooner....
 
When is the squad due back from Austria? Maybe the Besic deal is being kept officially under wraps so they can do a double unveiling of him and Lukaku when Martinez returns......? Or maybe not.
 
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