2024/25 Nathan Patterson

Nymzee said:
Or you could just admit what you said was wrong instead of reacting like a child. I feel like that might be difficult for you though.
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I often admit to being wrong mate, because like most people posting on here I’m giving opinions on things way above my actual knowledge. I’m not a premier league footballer or manager, and am fully aware that most of the stuff I spew out in boredom on here would be laughed at by someone who was. I appreciate you’re one of the few without that self awareness.

In this instance though, no I don’t believe that I need to retract saying ‘people insist he’s great’ just because you don’t think someone has used those exact words. I think it’s clear to anyone not looking for an argument or with an agenda that it was a general turn of phrase rather than an attempt at a direct quote.

My point was, and remains, that I think people seem very entrenched and defensive about their opinions on Patterson in both ways. The responses since I posted it have very much affirmed that view, so cheers for proving me right.
 

Lanolin said:
I often admit to being wrong mate, because like most people posting on here I’m giving opinions on things way above my actual knowledge. I’m not a premier league footballer or manager, and am fully aware that most of the stuff I spew out in boredom on here would be laughed at by someone who was. I appreciate you’re one of the few without that self awareness.

In this instance though, no I don’t believe that I need to retract saying ‘people insist he’s great’ just because you don’t think someone has used those exact words. I think it’s clear to anyone not looking for an argument or with an agenda that it was a general turn of phrase rather than an attempt at a direct quote.

My point was, and remains, that I think people seem very entrenched and defensive about their opinions on Patterson in both ways. The responses since I posted it have very much affirmed that view, so cheers for proving me right.
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Please send in some serious posts of people saying he’s great, or an equivalent, and then we can talk.
 
Lanolin said:
Seriously like, one post basically saying ‘I find both sides of the argument a bit mad’ and they’re all out giving it the ‘SHOW ME WHERE SOMEONE USES THOSE EXACT WORDS, SHOOOOOOWW MEEEEEE’. And pretending that isn’t them being weird.
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that’s a bit disingenuous about what you said.
Lanolin said:
It’s both sides though, it’s dead bizarre. There are people who just insist that he’s great and he needs to be given a chance and no amount of rationalising Makes any difference they’ll just keep saying the same things. It’s a very weird situation.
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As I said. Very few say that
 

Marius57 said:
Don’t know why you are purposefully misrepresenting people’s views but it’s poor
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Ignoring the irony of that coming from you of all people… it’s really really simple. I said people insist he’s great as a throwaway comment, I hadn’t actually checked the exact wording of posts and was never pretending to, it was a very basic comment on the people (you being pretty much number 1) who appear to defend him every time someone says something critical. I just don’t know why people get so worked about him either way, that was the only point being made. As I said, the fact a load of you have come for me for saying it is proving me right but you’re seemingly incapable of understanding that.
 
Lanolin said:
Ignoring the irony of that coming from you of all people… it’s really really simple. I said people insist he’s great as a throwaway comment, I hadn’t actually checked the exact wording of posts and was never pretending to, it was a very basic comment on the people (you being pretty much number 1) who appear to defend him every time someone says something critical. I just don’t know why people get so worked about him either way, that was the only point being made. As I said, the fact a load of you have come for me for saying it is proving me right but you’re seemingly incapable of understanding that.
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You of all people? Good one. 😂
 
Lanolin said:
In this instance though, no I don’t believe that I need to retract saying ‘people insist he’s great’ just because you don’t think someone has used those exact words.
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You'd struggle to find anyone who's said Patterson is consistently good on here, never mind great. Perhaps someone saying that he's had a good performance on occasion. More likely people saying that he's not as consistently bad as some people try to make him out to be to try and even out the rhetoric. So it's just as possible that you're the one seeing something in what others have said or taken something out of context.

So far he's struggled to be consistently good under relatively testing circumstances.
 
DuncanPatterson said:
You'd struggle to find anyone who's said Patterson is consistently good on here, never mind great. Perhaps someone saying that he's had a good performance on occasion. More likely people saying that he's not as consistently bad as some people try to make him out to be to try and even out the rhetoric. So it's just as possible that you're the one seeing something in what others have said or taken something out of context.

So far he's struggled to be consistently good under relatively testing circumstances.
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Was just a throwaway comment mate, that they were using to base their whole post on.
 
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Verbal Kint said:
He isn't the young player I saw at Rangers...

And by that he's either bulked up way to much or has trouble leaving the dinner table, breakfast table and Nandos table. He's not conditioned properly, has lost a yard of pace without question. Maybe change of Manager and him being a compatriot might help
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Mate, i met him a couple of times in June 2023 golfing in Portugal, then again in Scotland, he was so slim and slender. A proper athletic frame. Looked like he could run all day. Really nice lad btw. That's just after he'd been flying for Scotland.

He came back this season, after being injured during the off season in terrible shape, I don't know it was a plan by Dyche to bulk him up, but I have it on good authority that he's a dedicated lad to his profession and follows instruction.

Given the complete lack of match sharpness and fitness levels throughout the last 18 months of Dyche's leadership, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Dyche trying to get him "Premier league ready"... It's cost him a yard of pace. Can see he's lost a bit of that bulk recently.

Moyes will get him back to his peak levels.
 
A big week for this criminally underused hot prospect. Shocking that no bids have come in so far tbh. Nor any reported interest. Almost as if nobody wants him and we're stuck with him for the remainder of his contract. Cheers Marcel Brands.
 
Flynnthistle said:
Mate, i met him a couple of times in June 2023 golfing in Portugal, then again in Scotland, he was so slim and slender. A proper athletic frame. Looked like he could run all day. Really nice lad btw. That's just after he'd been flying for Scotland.

He came back this season, after being injured during the off season in terrible shape, I don't know it was a plan by Dyche to bulk him up, but I have it on good authority that he's a dedicated lad to his profession and follows instruction.

Given the complete lack of match sharpness and fitness levels throughout the last 18 months of Dyche's leadership, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Dyche trying to get him "Premier league ready"... It's cost him a yard of pace. Can see he's lost a bit of that bulk recently.

Moyes will get him back to his peak levels.
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Hope so mate, was very happy we when signed him. Hopefully he turns the corner
 

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