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Mike and Shaq pay their respects to Kobe with great lines, but Shaq with the best story
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Juggernaut Bucks clinch NBA playoff spot 55 days before start of postseason
The Milwaukee Bucks have a spot in the postseason, only a week after the All-Star Game
SerenityNigh's needless post-All-Star-break power rankings and odds to win the NBA Finals
All rankings include Ring Factor (have you been here before?), HOF Factor (you need HOF players to win, even if they're Father Time old), and Tangible Factor (like intangibles, but more relevant)
Not making the cut: OKC, I don't believe in them
11. 76ers
These really shouldn't make the cut either, but I would rather show how disappointing they've been, because these were pre-season darlings. Instead, they're 9-21 on the road this season, not to mention they're injured. These are a 90% lock to get bounced in the first round.
RF: 0
HF: 3, This roster is talented, and I really like guys like Thybulle, although he'll never get in except as part of a winning team, but Simmons, Embiid, and Horford all look like HOF guys to me.
TF: 9-21 on the road, what a bunch of losers.
Ring %: 1
10. Mavs
The Mavs are exciting but not yet ready. They could easily win a series and build some necessary experience, and if you like them you should be excited about next year, but they really have no chance to win this year.
RF: 0
HF: 1, Porzingis should develop into a HOF player but he's got to stay healthy. Luka is a monster though.
TF: 20-9 on the road, which is better than at home. These look like good money to upset someone if they get the right matchup, but they can't go more than 1 round, can they?
Ring %: 2
9. Jazz
This team looks good on paper, bad on the court. Quinn Snyder makes me feel like I need a smoke when I look at him. They should be good, and maybe they'll figure something out when the time comes, but I think they're built wrong. I can't see them getting past the 2nd round, and with the wrong matchup in round 1 they'll get bounced in 5.
RF: 0
HF: 2, Conley probably isn't a HOF guy but you have to think Mitchell and Gobert are. 2 HOF is generally the baseline to challenge for a title, but even still this team isn't ready.
TF: They traded for Conley and can't figure out how to use him still.
Ring %: 2
8. Nuggets
They are as deep as you can get it seems, but they give too many minutes to too many players. The bench shortens and superstars emerge in the postseason, and I'm not sure who on this team will emerge to get what they need. I can see them going deep in the playoffs--they should--but I don't see them as a real threat to win.
RF: 0
HF: 1, Is it just Jokic who's elite? I don't know that anyone else is next level, and although Millsap had a great career, he's probably not HOF either (not to mention he's out of the rotation).
TF: This team is really, deep, which normally is a good thing, but I can't make that work in their favor.
Ring % 3
7. Rockets
They've doubled down on small ball wonkish play style, and it will win them most games but I don't know whether this will last in the playoffs. How many nerds have won the NBA Finals before anyway? Some will say that both GSW and Miami Heat both won with small ball teams, but both of these also played big men when it counted. Plus, GSW has Draymond, and Robert Covington isn't Draymond. These Rockets will destroy some teams then lose in heartbreaking fashion when it counts.
RF: 0, although if I could go -1 I might put that here
HF: 2, and a solid 2 with Westbrook and Harden
TF: 0-27 from 3-point range, just 2 years ago, in game 7. Daryl Morey is probably also a gambling addict.
Ring %: 5
6. Heat
I really like this Heat team and think they're seriously underestimated, but even then I don't know how good they are nor how good they can be. But their road record is not good, which is not a good sign. Maybe that will improve over the last few weeks.
RF: 1, it's nice to have a guy like Iguodala on your side
HF: 2, I like Bam Adebayo as a young modern 5, and Iguodala should get in for winning and career numbers, but I'm only giving them 1/2 each. Plus Jimmy Butler, he's ok at basketball.
TF: If they don't implode, they'll be a tough grind for any and every team they face. They should reach round 2 and could be a challenge in the East Finals if they make it.
Ring %: 5
All rankings include Ring Factor (have you been here before?), HOF Factor (you need HOF players to win, even if they're Father Time old), and Tangible Factor (like intangibles, but more relevant)
Not making the cut: OKC, I don't believe in them
11. 76ers
These really shouldn't make the cut either, but I would rather show how disappointing they've been, because these were pre-season darlings. Instead, they're 9-21 on the road this season, not to mention they're injured. These are a 90% lock to get bounced in the first round.
RF: 0
HF: 3, This roster is talented, and I really like guys like Thybulle, although he'll never get in except as part of a winning team, but Simmons, Embiid, and Horford all look like HOF guys to me.
TF: 9-21 on the road, what a bunch of losers.
Ring %: 1
10. Mavs
The Mavs are exciting but not yet ready. They could easily win a series and build some necessary experience, and if you like them you should be excited about next year, but they really have no chance to win this year.
RF: 0
HF: 1, Porzingis should develop into a HOF player but he's got to stay healthy. Luka is a monster though.
TF: 20-9 on the road, which is better than at home. These look like good money to upset someone if they get the right matchup, but they can't go more than 1 round, can they?
Ring %: 2
9. Jazz
This team looks good on paper, bad on the court. Quinn Snyder makes me feel like I need a smoke when I look at him. They should be good, and maybe they'll figure something out when the time comes, but I think they're built wrong. I can't see them getting past the 2nd round, and with the wrong matchup in round 1 they'll get bounced in 5.
RF: 0
HF: 2, Conley probably isn't a HOF guy but you have to think Mitchell and Gobert are. 2 HOF is generally the baseline to challenge for a title, but even still this team isn't ready.
TF: They traded for Conley and can't figure out how to use him still.
Ring %: 2
8. Nuggets
They are as deep as you can get it seems, but they give too many minutes to too many players. The bench shortens and superstars emerge in the postseason, and I'm not sure who on this team will emerge to get what they need. I can see them going deep in the playoffs--they should--but I don't see them as a real threat to win.
RF: 0
HF: 1, Is it just Jokic who's elite? I don't know that anyone else is next level, and although Millsap had a great career, he's probably not HOF either (not to mention he's out of the rotation).
TF: This team is really, deep, which normally is a good thing, but I can't make that work in their favor.
Ring % 3
7. Rockets
They've doubled down on small ball wonkish play style, and it will win them most games but I don't know whether this will last in the playoffs. How many nerds have won the NBA Finals before anyway? Some will say that both GSW and Miami Heat both won with small ball teams, but both of these also played big men when it counted. Plus, GSW has Draymond, and Robert Covington isn't Draymond. These Rockets will destroy some teams then lose in heartbreaking fashion when it counts.
RF: 0, although if I could go -1 I might put that here
HF: 2, and a solid 2 with Westbrook and Harden
TF: 0-27 from 3-point range, just 2 years ago, in game 7. Daryl Morey is probably also a gambling addict.
Ring %: 5
6. Heat
I really like this Heat team and think they're seriously underestimated, but even then I don't know how good they are nor how good they can be. But their road record is not good, which is not a good sign. Maybe that will improve over the last few weeks.
RF: 1, it's nice to have a guy like Iguodala on your side
HF: 2, I like Bam Adebayo as a young modern 5, and Iguodala should get in for winning and career numbers, but I'm only giving them 1/2 each. Plus Jimmy Butler, he's ok at basketball.
TF: If they don't implode, they'll be a tough grind for any and every team they face. They should reach round 2 and could be a challenge in the East Finals if they make it.
Ring %: 5
SerenityNigh's needless post-All-Star-break power rankings and odds to win the NBA Finals, Part 2
5. Clippers
If only they were healthy and we knew how good they could be. Of course, there's still time for them to figure this out, but they've wasted a lot of season not being healthy. If healthy, having 2 dominant wings who play devastating defense and can get any shot when they want (well, only Kawhi can shoot in the 4th quarter in playoffs) will absolutely wreck almost every other team in the league. Too bad this isn't yet who the Clippers are.
RF: 1, although Board Man could be worth more than 1
HF: 2, and Board Man and Paul George is a solid 2.
TF: You don't get awards on the training table, although it could get you a Presidential Medal of Freedom if you schlep the party line.
Ring %: 12
4. Raptors
I don't know who will carry them through the playoffs this year. But all they seem to be able to do is win. So that counts for something, and it's something big.
RF: 2, they've got everyone returning from last year except Board Man, who is a huge loss. But the supporting cast isn't bad.
HF: ?, I honestly don't know what to think here. Does Lowry get in on career + a title? Is FVV going to translate this into a HOF career? Is Pascal Siakam a dominant NBA power forward for years to come? Is Marc Gasol a HOF player for his career + a title like Lowry?
TF: They hungry, don't count them out.
Ring % 15
3. Cs
Let's just go ahead and call Jayson Tatum "the Mohel" now, because we know he will emasculate at least one man come playoff time. He's turning from an all-star into a superstar before your eyes, and so you should expect to see some magic in the playoffs, even if they aren't ready to win it all yet. Plus he just turned 21. Lebron won his first title at 27. Jordan won his first title at 28 (?). Board Man won young, but that was when he was a role player on a 4-HOF Spurs team. So let's sit back and enjoy the Jayson Tatum show. Oh, there are other good players on this team too.
RF: 0
HF: 1, although to be fair there is more talent that may emerge
TF: The Mohel
Ring % 15
5. Clippers
If only they were healthy and we knew how good they could be. Of course, there's still time for them to figure this out, but they've wasted a lot of season not being healthy. If healthy, having 2 dominant wings who play devastating defense and can get any shot when they want (well, only Kawhi can shoot in the 4th quarter in playoffs) will absolutely wreck almost every other team in the league. Too bad this isn't yet who the Clippers are.
RF: 1, although Board Man could be worth more than 1
HF: 2, and Board Man and Paul George is a solid 2.
TF: You don't get awards on the training table, although it could get you a Presidential Medal of Freedom if you schlep the party line.
Ring %: 12
4. Raptors
I don't know who will carry them through the playoffs this year. But all they seem to be able to do is win. So that counts for something, and it's something big.
RF: 2, they've got everyone returning from last year except Board Man, who is a huge loss. But the supporting cast isn't bad.
HF: ?, I honestly don't know what to think here. Does Lowry get in on career + a title? Is FVV going to translate this into a HOF career? Is Pascal Siakam a dominant NBA power forward for years to come? Is Marc Gasol a HOF player for his career + a title like Lowry?
TF: They hungry, don't count them out.
Ring % 15
3. Cs
Let's just go ahead and call Jayson Tatum "the Mohel" now, because we know he will emasculate at least one man come playoff time. He's turning from an all-star into a superstar before your eyes, and so you should expect to see some magic in the playoffs, even if they aren't ready to win it all yet. Plus he just turned 21. Lebron won his first title at 27. Jordan won his first title at 28 (?). Board Man won young, but that was when he was a role player on a 4-HOF Spurs team. So let's sit back and enjoy the Jayson Tatum show. Oh, there are other good players on this team too.
RF: 0
HF: 1, although to be fair there is more talent that may emerge
TF: The Mohel
Ring % 15
Ay ay, who gave Simmons a GOT log-in
Wtf have I just not read
SerenityNigh's needless post-All-Star-break power rankings and odds to win the NBA Finals, finally he's done
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I don't like any roster which is built on men older than me, and the average age of Lakers getting double digit minutes is (checks notes) 57.3. That said, all the other metrics are favorable, and if you've not noticed, Lebron James can play the basketball.
RF: 2, don't forget Rondo has been there before, although Lebron should get a 2 rating on his own.
HF: 2, I'm not sure if Rondo gets in, but Anthony Davis and Lebron James should *just* make it into the HOF consideration. Some even say LeBron is a top-ten player all time, but it's probably too early for such nonsense discussions.
TF: If they can survive the season and post-season healthy, this will be the only team that can qualify for and win the NBA Finals and the Boca Raton Master's League in the same calendar year, and that's not small potatoes.
Ring %: 20
1. Bucks
I don't really know what to think of this roster, and I'm not sure if Middleton is the 2nd scorer needed to win the NBA Finals, but this Giannis kid is ok at the basketball and people should watch him play. Even though the East is better than it's been in a long time, the Bucks have the most straightforward path to the Finals out of all the teams, so they get all the edges, except in experience. Let's see if they can do something here.
RF: 0
HF: 1
TF: They're not just a front-runner, they're clearlyone of the best teams in the league. I'm excited to see how they'll match up with the Heat or Cs or both.
Ring %: 20
2. LOL
I don't like any roster which is built on men older than me, and the average age of Lakers getting double digit minutes is (checks notes) 57.3. That said, all the other metrics are favorable, and if you've not noticed, Lebron James can play the basketball.
RF: 2, don't forget Rondo has been there before, although Lebron should get a 2 rating on his own.
HF: 2, I'm not sure if Rondo gets in, but Anthony Davis and Lebron James should *just* make it into the HOF consideration. Some even say LeBron is a top-ten player all time, but it's probably too early for such nonsense discussions.
TF: If they can survive the season and post-season healthy, this will be the only team that can qualify for and win the NBA Finals and the Boca Raton Master's League in the same calendar year, and that's not small potatoes.
Ring %: 20
1. Bucks
I don't really know what to think of this roster, and I'm not sure if Middleton is the 2nd scorer needed to win the NBA Finals, but this Giannis kid is ok at the basketball and people should watch him play. Even though the East is better than it's been in a long time, the Bucks have the most straightforward path to the Finals out of all the teams, so they get all the edges, except in experience. Let's see if they can do something here.
RF: 0
HF: 1
TF: They're not just a front-runner, they're clearly
Ring %: 20
But first, some Pearl Jam
Forgot to mention, I'm now a huge fan of Nick Nurse, who along with substitute teacher Joe Ingles are headliners on my "Quit your day job all-NBA team"
I will update it again before the playoffs if you want to wait until then to read it
Starting to think we can overtake Grizz, Spurs and Portland for that 8th seed.
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