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[Brennan]

It's certainly the way it works for us. Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea and Spurs all had their top targets sorted out long before the last day. Newcastle had 5 deals sorted.

Just last year Spurs failed to buy Moutinho on deadline day. We bought players before the deadline in the Summer and in January, sometimes players are available and sometimes they aren't. This whole 'WHY DIDNT THE CLUB BUY SOONER' is ridiculous, as if they've just waited on purpose for deadline day.

 

[bluebottle]

Agree and fee but let him play tonight

Surely we dont want him cup tied?

 

[Brennan]

Yep, fake bids in 2013.

Do you not think it's about time Everton changed their own, extremely stale, record?

So i suppose you have proof that the bid for Fer was fake then ? Oh no, you don't, you're just talking utter garbage.

 

[MACCA75]

Just last year Spurs failed to buy Moutinho on deadline day. We bought players before the deadline in the Summer and in January, sometimes players are available and sometimes they aren't. This whole 'WHY DIDNT THE CLUB BY SOONER' is ridiculous, as if they've just waited on purpose for deadline day.

Deals are there to be had earlier in the window. Clearly it is generally our policy to wait until the last minute and gamble that players become available that werent previously and also gamble that the price will come down. If the club choose to do this then fair enough, sometimes it works, but lets not pretend that it is the only way to do business in the window as that is just 'how it works'. Personally after the Ofoe shambles i was expecting us not to make the same mistakes again this window. Starting to look like we have, isnt it.

 

[somuchfun]

If we would have money to make best value deals for the selling party we could do business earlier but as is we can't make 'deals you can't refuse' before the other parties have listened out the other interested parties, thus we operate in the end part of the window. It makes sense. We'll prolly sign someone amazing anyway. Up the Blues!

 

[Brennan]

Deals are there to be had earlier in the window. Clearly it is generally our policy to wait until the last minute and gamble that players become available that werent previously and also gamble that the price will come down. If the club choose to do this then fair enough, sometimes it works, but lets not pretend that it is the only way to do business in the window as that is just 'how it works'. Personally after the Ofoe shambles i was expecting us not to make the same mistakes again this window. Starting to look like we have, isnt it.

Ofoe was a last minute option after we tried to buy other players, stop re-writing history to fit this idea that we deliberately wait until last minute, we don't.

 

[Brennan]

If we would have money to make best value deals for the selling party we could do business earlier but as is we can't make 'deals you can't refuse' before the other parties have listened out the other interested parties, thus we operate in the end part of the window. It makes sense. We'll prolly sign someone amazing anyway. Up the Blues!

Precisely.

It's like people on here want us to get ripped off. If you can't afford to pay ridiculous prices then you don't pay them. That often means that you have to wait until last minute to get the player you want. It's totally different not trying to get players at all, which is what some are implying.

 

[Essex Blue]

So i suppose you have proof that the bid for Fer was fake then ? Oh no, you don't, you're just talking utter garbage.

OK then, let’s go through what we do know.

Everton made a ‘bid’ of 8.5 million, paid over 3 years, for Fer. The deal was agreed and accepted by Twente. Fer undertakes a medical at Everton, Fer passes his medical at Everton. The deal falls through because Everton suddenly want to change the deal that had been agreed 24 hours earlier.

Now we are supposedly making 10million Euro bids (probably in instalments) for a player whose club is demanding 15-20million Euros. Which is the very essence of a fake bid. I really shouldn’t have to go over the whole Shearer and Kuyt stuff once again.

If they aren’t fake bids, then we can all look forward to us signing a very good player in the next few hours, and there won’t be a problem.

 

[stevo27]

I think it's more a case of some fans wanting deals to fail so they can have another pop at the board and use utter tosh lines such as 'fake bid' and such

 

[Brennan]

OK then, let’s go through what we do know.

Everton made a ‘bid’ of 8.5 million, paid over 3 years, for Fer. The deal was agreed and accepted by Twente. Fer undertakes a medical at Everton, Fer passes his medical at Everton. The deal falls through because Everton suddenly want to change the deal that had been agreed 24 hours later.

Now we are supposedly making 10million Euro bids (probably in instalments) for a player whose club is demanding 15-20million Euros. Which is the very essence of a fake bid. I really shouldn’t have to go over the whole Shearer and Kuyt stuff once again.

If they aren’t fake bids, then we can all look forward to us signing a very good player in the next few hours, and there won’t be a problem.

In that case, can you wait until the deadline to spout this fake bid s***e ?

 

[Brennan]

I think it's more a case of some fans wanting deals to fail so they can have another pop at the board and use utter tosh lines such as 'fake bid' and such

It's pathetic, utterly pathetic.

If i was that filled with bile i certainly wouldn't be sat talking in a transfer thread.

 

[MACCA75]

Precisely.

It's like people on here want us to get ripped off. If you can't afford to pay ridiculous prices then you don't pay them. That often means that you have to wait until last minute to get the player you want. It's totally different not trying to get players at all, which is what some are implying.

Not at all - I'm sure Newcastle are happy with paying 2 million for Sissoko, and i'm sure Chelsea are happy with paying 7 million for Ba. Some of the most rip off deals are actually on deadline day - 35 million for Carroll springs to mind.

 

[Samps]

Deals are there to be had earlier in the window. Clearly it is generally our policy to wait until the last minute and gamble that players become available that werent previously and also gamble that the price will come down. If the club choose to do this then fair enough, sometimes it works, but lets not pretend that it is the only way to do business in the window as that is just 'how it works'. Personally after the Ofoe shambles i was expecting us not to make the same mistakes again this window. Starting to look like we have, isnt it.

I think it's just a case of doing our business at a stage when everyone's minds are 100% focussed on doing business. It cuts the crap and paradoxically, if we've got money to spend, strengthens our bargaining position. Limited time to get one's grubby mits on our dollar means deals are more likely to be struck.

 

[Leighton Staines]

What a signing that would have been, well done to Moyes for even trying

 

[Essex Blue]

In that case, can you wait until the deadline to spout this fake bid s***e ?

Fine.

You still won't accept it though, even when it comes to 11 o'clock and we end up signing Ofoe on loan