New Everton Manager

[Lanolin]

I understand what you're saying here. But it's somewhat aligned with what I'm trying to say.

Some people are holding to account comments made years ago in the heat of the moment as a reason they would now lose their emotions towards Everton's weekly fortunes.

I'll still be desperate for Everton to win every week and enjoy it every bit as much as I ever have. Regardless of the manager having once said something incorrectly in anger, that was mainly against an ex-managers tactics. An ex-manager might I add, who would go on to take a dump on the club from great heights, who I'd be far less inclined to forgive.

I think the small club thing is being made into a bigger issue than it is to be honest. Certainly my main issues with him are that I think he'd be a generally uninspiring appointment anyway, that I think he plays the exact opposite of the football I want to see, and that I think he's just a truly awful fit for where we are as a club. The Liverpool connection and small club comments are just what pushes him from the 'I really don't want him' bracket into the 'Absolutely not' bracket.

People are different, I don't think you're wrong for saying you can forgive and forget but I also fully understand why others see it differently. It's a little bit like a partner cheating I suppose, some people will take them back and others will literally never speak another word to them, it's just the way it is.

 

[BornBlue76]

The thought of Rafael coming in has me yearning for Potter now! Looks like Gerrard will soon be favourite for the Spurs job.

This might sound like lunacy but I’d sooner have Gerrard than Rafael.. I’m putting aside their RS history on this.. I would go for Potter too..

 

[catcherintherye]

They must know, they might be incapable of running a football club, but they are not thick.

I just think it doesn't impact them, Moshiri, and certainly Usmanov are too far removed from sentiment and that's what it is.

As far as they're concerned, it's their plaything, they pay the bills, and they'll do what they like.

I'm not being horrible, but serious business people don't get too worried about sentiment. If they feel it's the right decision, they will make the call. If it is the right appointment, and Benitez adds 10 point to the bottom line so we are in the CL next year, nobody is going to be against him. That's the calculation they are making.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

I have lots in my head, most of which others will scoff at, but when we end up with someone like benitez, then I don't understand that mentality

Potter
Frank - (Edit - This is Thomas Frank, not me splitting Frank Lampard into 2 seperate lines!)
Lampard
Favre
Ragnick
Emery
Kovac
Mancini

I have a very open mind on it really. I only have 2 real criteria....

1) Avoid any unnnecessarily divisive appointments which would create a bad atmosphere
2) Don't re-appoint someone who has previously been our manager - I don't think it's ever likely to work second time around.

Potter - I dont think we can approach Potter unless his club give permission (Fall out from the Silva fiasco)
Lampard - bombed at Chelsea after spending a shedload on players and then saw those same players lift the CL with Tuchel
Favre - Going to CP so no longer relevant
Rangnick - Strange one - I hope they interviewed him - not sure if they actually did or not
Emery - Too costly to prise from Villareal and also bombed last time out in PL with Arsenal
Kovac - yup good shout, don't quite understand why we heard nothing - maybe he wasn't interested?
Mancini - Just signed extension with Italy until 2026 - will be leading Italy to next WC and beyond. SO never going to happen

 

[Alan Whittle]

Favre is 63 and hasn't achieved anymore than Potter in the game. He has pretty much been sacked from every club. He has 1 good season and then it all goes down the toilet for him until he's relieved of his duties.

I predict he won't achieve anymore than Hodgson at Palace.

We’re loving your predictions tbh. All of them.lol

 

[Quadvod]

I can only think that Moshiri has read Bellamy's book and likes Rafael's way of doing things. Lets be honest we could do with someone telling most of our squad the below:

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I see that story as a positive- by all accounts bellamy was a disruptive influence when not playing and benitez was getting torres in. Some of our current squad could do with a few home truths like this

 

[riddick]

Kovac is a good shout - I hope we at least talked to him.

Emery has just won a major European trophy and has two years left on his contract with Villareal so getting him would be a major problem and cost a fair bit in compo. He also bombed last time in the PL with Arsenal. So given all those factors I reckon he would be marked as high risk.

I think you need to look at the criteria that Moshiri and Usmanov have for a new manager. They have a lot of money tied up in the new stadium and also need to entice outside investment. Outside investment requires a low level of risk. So they are looking for stability both in financial terms and in keeping us in the PL and regularly challenging for European spots.

I think they would have talked to a lot of interested parties but dismissed many of them as carrying too much of a risk - having said that, Benitez and his baggage also present a risk. But they see that risk coming from the fanbase only -and as they don't give a toss about us, they see him as a good option.

Not meant as a personal attack on you so please don't take it that way but you would have to be absolutely daft to think that Benitez doesn't have a SIGNIFICANT amount of risk. Theres nothing "safe" about this appointment. And if all we are looking for is "safe" then there are loads of OTHER managers who wouldn't be anywhere near as divisive as Benitez. Tony fn Pulis ffs.

 

[windymiller]

I'm not being horrible, but serious business people don't get too worried about sentiment. If they feel it's the right decision, they will make the call. If it is the right appointment, and Benitez adds 10 point to the bottom line so we are in the CL next year, nobody is going to be against him. That's the calculation they are making.

That's some optimistic calculator they are using!

 

[Moomin]

Wonder what his reveal video will be like

The clip of him calling us a small club.

Then he comes out and says " Time to become big again "

 

[blue to the bone]

Instead of having a sweepstake on the time of his announcement could we have one instead on what time @matty1878 's head explodes ?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Potter - I dont think we can approach Potter unless his club give permission (Fall out from the Silva fiasco)
Lampard - bombed at Chelsea after spending a shedload on players and then saw those same players lift the CL with Tuchel
Favre - Going to CP so no longer relevant
Rangnick - Strange one - I hope they interviewed him - not sure if they actually did or not
Emery - Too costly to prise from Villareal and also bombed last time out in PL with Arsenal
Kovac - yup good shout, don't quite understand why we heard nothing - maybe he wasn't interested?
Mancini - Just signed extension with Italy until 2026 - will be leading Italy to next WC and beyond. SO never going to happen

I would add that my knowledge of European and global football isn't that good these days either, so I would also hope our DOF has a much better knowledge of managers than me!

I agree with some of your points above, not so sure on Mancini, Favre (he would come here if we offered), Lampard or Emery.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

There probably is something in that.

They may have concluded it just wasn't worth it. The "selling" club holds all of the aces and we would have been on dangerous ground making an indirect / illegal approach, after recent history.

Even if you get your man, it takes weeks in time spent + compensation. Not that compensation would have been a big issue for Potter, but Brighton or any other club for example, aren't ever going to hand over their manager without a fight, and who would blame them.

It doesn't appear to be as big an issue in Europe, but culturally as much as anything else, it's just frowned upon here. It's also a factor that other PL clubs don't seem to have as high an opinion of our status as we do. It isn't like Madrid approaching Ancelotti, they had all that sewn up before Everton would have been told.

Alos I think Moshiri is sick and tired off paying millions to poach other managers (Koeman, Silva) and then spend millions again in compensation when he has to sack them 18 months later

 

[jazzy]

Get ready for later @matty1878

I heard that Matty is finding it difficult to handle all this Benitez crap and has gone on holiday.....yeah he's in de nile.....lol

 

[billyblue80]

No idea but within 10 mins of being released some wag will have put a version of it on twitter dubbed with boos the minute FSWs face appears.

Imagine he walked in, in full Liverpool kit.

The clip of him calling us a small club.

Then he comes out and says " Time to become big again "

Yeah liken the Wizard of bleeding Oz

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

I see that story as a positive- by all accounts bellamy was a disruptive influence when not playing and benitez was getting torres in. Some of our current squad could do with a few home truths like this

We don't need a manager for this, we have a DoF who "should" be doing this....

Regardless of a manager being here or not, Brands should be doing this - I think we all know they will have a clean slate under a new manager though.