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New Everton Manager

Next ex-Everton manager


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Any manager after Ancelotti was going to be seen as a downgrade and disliked by a portion of the fanbase.

All that changes with Benitez is he's liked by even less of the fanbase.

It's a shot to nothing. We were screwed regardless. What we've done is go for the 'name' manager to preserve the little prestige the job has as a club with 'ambition' with the alleged new stadium happening.

Benitez in all likelihood won't last 12 to 18 months tops. So be it. It would have been the same barring a miracle with any manager. If he has the guts to take the job on with the overwhelming issues it has, good luck to him. I'll back him as far as I can.

But yes, I think we're screwed regardless.
 
Must negate the risk of relegation before we move to a new stadium,...lol there is no risk of relegation 29 points would have seen a team safe last season.
People keep saying this on here, Moshiri wants us at the top he has pumped hundreds of millions in, he isn’t gonna settle for 17th.
 
Tbh as soon as Benitez took the Chelsea job he showed that he has absolutely scant regard for the respect of Kopites. He’s as much a mercenary as the rest of them. Even Mourinho took employment from United and Spurs after being a Chelsea legend. The fact Benitez is even willing to take an interview with us shows he couldn’t give one about his Liverpool connections. I’m sure the Valencia fans weren’t happy about him rocking up at Madrid either, did he care? No.

Of course that works the other way around as well. He’s not going to be a lifelong Evertonian after this, but quite frankly neither have any of our managers been since HK was last in charge. Ancelotti talked the talk then binned us off at the first opportunity. Benitez is a mercenary football manager (like they all are) who will probably put himself before any of his clubs. As long as we understand that when we get into business with him then there’s no reason an exchange can’t take place where we pay him and he improves us. If he doesn’t he’s out, but that’s the same for any manager.

The only way that fans will have this sentimental misty eyed view of the club as they remember it being decades ago is if we appointed an ex player as manager. The fact that most of them are derided as cone layers on here shows that wouldn’t go down too well either. As soon as we go ‘outside of the parish’ for a manager we run the risk that any decent manager will not want to stay here. They have no connection to Everton, they don’t care about us, we are a stepping stone for them. We got a bit lucky with Moyes, but any manager who is good, or on the pathway to being good, won’t even look at us, or if they did won’t be here long.

Benitez might still be decent (I’ve no idea to be honest). He’ll probably stick around for a bit as he’s not on the upward curve at the moment and has done a lot of his career moving (what we thought we were getting under Ancelotti) and already lives here. He has prem experience and knows how to manage poor players.

He’s ticking all of Moshiri’s and probably Brand’s boxes whether we like it or not, and was probably the reason why Moyes and Nuno were amongst the other candidates. I’d imagine Everton’s requirements were something like this:

Must negate the risk of relegation before we move to a new stadium

Low likelihood of leaving for another club, will commit to a project to see us into the stadium

Has experience managing squads of different talent levels, and preferably in the premier league

Could push the club forward to European competition qualification

Can make use of the players we already have in the squad an attract other decent players

Preferable if available and affordable as cash is probably tight after Covid.


If this is anywhere close to what Everton were looking for then it immediately rules out a whole host of managers including Conte, Potter, Howe, Martinez, even Favre.

It actually leaves quite a short list which includes Moyes and Nuno and Benitez. Considering the first two were absolutely panned on here when linked then it’s only the Liverpool connection being the only blocker as to why Benitez isn’t a good choice for the club right now.

People don’t seem to understand that we cannot take a risk in this position. We are all chips in on the new stadium, Covid has made everything more difficult, the squad is in a perilous position with the best players unfit or wanting out and the rest not very good. We cannot roll the dice on a manager who might not integrate, can’t get the squad behind him, is shocked by the prem, or needs 100s of millions on players to implement his philosophy and can’t get results in the mean time.
If the stadium has now become Everton's reason to exist and is going to be an excuse for us continuing to tread water and for every dreadful board room decision then maybe it's best we don't have it? Can anyone name a team who went from also ran to contender purely because of a new stadium? I can't think of a single one but I can think of examples of teams that went backwards after the construction of a new home, Arsenal being the obvious one.
 

Tbh as soon as Benitez took the Chelsea job he showed that he has absolutely scant regard for the respect of Kopites. He’s as much a mercenary as the rest of them. Even Mourinho took employment from United and Spurs after being a Chelsea legend. The fact Benitez is even willing to take an interview with us shows he couldn’t give one about his Liverpool connections. I’m sure the Valencia fans weren’t happy about him rocking up at Madrid either, did he care? No.

Of course that works the other way around as well. He’s not going to be a lifelong Evertonian after this, but quite frankly neither have any of our managers been since HK was last in charge. Ancelotti talked the talk then binned us off at the first opportunity. Benitez is a mercenary football manager (like they all are) who will probably put himself before any of his clubs. As long as we understand that when we get into business with him then there’s no reason an exchange can’t take place where we pay him and he improves us. If he doesn’t he’s out, but that’s the same for any manager.

The only way that fans will have this sentimental misty eyed view of the club as they remember it being decades ago is if we appointed an ex player as manager. The fact that most of them are derided as cone layers on here shows that wouldn’t go down too well either. As soon as we go ‘outside of the parish’ for a manager we run the risk that any decent manager will not want to stay here. They have no connection to Everton, they don’t care about us, we are a stepping stone for them. We got a bit lucky with Moyes, but any manager who is good, or on the pathway to being good, won’t even look at us, or if they did won’t be here long.

Benitez might still be decent (I’ve no idea to be honest). He’ll probably stick around for a bit as he’s not on the upward curve at the moment and has done a lot of his career moving (what we thought we were getting under Ancelotti) and already lives here. He has prem experience and knows how to manage poor players.

He’s ticking all of Moshiri’s and probably Brand’s boxes whether we like it or not, and was probably the reason why Moyes and Nuno were amongst the other candidates. I’d imagine Everton’s requirements were something like this:

Must negate the risk of relegation before we move to a new stadium

Low likelihood of leaving for another club, will commit to a project to see us into the stadium

Has experience managing squads of different talent levels, and preferably in the premier league

Could push the club forward to European competition qualification

Can make use of the players we already have in the squad an attract other decent players

Preferable if available and affordable as cash is probably tight after Covid.


If this is anywhere close to what Everton were looking for then it immediately rules out a whole host of managers including Conte, Potter, Howe, Martinez, even Favre.

It actually leaves quite a short list which includes Moyes and Nuno and Benitez. Considering the first two were absolutely panned on here when linked then it’s only the Liverpool connection being the only blocker as to why Benitez isn’t a good choice for the club right now.

People don’t seem to understand that we cannot take a risk in this position. We are all chips in on the new stadium, Covid has made everything more difficult, the squad is in a perilous position with the best players unfit or wanting out and the rest not very good. We cannot roll the dice on a manager who might not integrate, can’t get the squad behind him, is shocked by the prem, or needs 100s of millions on players to implement his philosophy and can’t get results in the mean time.
Excellent summary
 
Ah well. We move forward and concentrate on bringing some new players inn now and add some pace to the team. I wish him all the best and hope we move forward. Let’s go,
 

Just don’t see what he’s going to do differently what Ancelotti couldn’t do with this current team. That’s my issue with this appointment. I’m not crying or frothing at the mouth because he managed them, no point, regardless I think he’ll be gone within 18 months.
 
Also I could understand the fume if we appointed a genuine Red like Danny Murphy or Gerrard who are on record as hating Everton/Evertonians.

Benitez isn't one of those - he literally made a jibe in the heat of the moment at how we played against them.

The LFC connection is literally the least of my worries with the bloke - I just want someone in the prime of their career who is ambitious not entering their twilight years which is what Ancelotti/Benitez currently are.
It wasn't just that one comment though. He was often putting us down. Relationships between the clubs was at it's worst during his tenure and it was driven by him. The derbies were septic affairs. Horrible times. I can't think of another Liverpool manager in my memory, which goes back to Bill Shankly, who I dislike more. Dalglish and Souness possibly come closest. And the majority of them I would get behind if they ever became Everton manager.

I really feel very sad at this moment. I'm glad I don't live in Liverpool anymore. I'll always be an Evertonian as it's in my blood, but I don't think I've ever felt more distanced from the club and the people that run it. For me this is much worse than the Allardyce appointment, and I gave up my season ticket over that.
 
Oh well the Board of Everton FC hates the supporters; interesting concept.

They are building you a shiny new £500+ million stadium on the docks and have invested more money than most owners in the league without the benefit of CL revenue to keep the taps on.

Our fanbase have become so spoilt in recent years imo not Usmanov/Moshiri's fault the likes of Walsh/Brands pished money up the wall like drunken sailors on trash like Iwobi, Gomes, Siggurdsson, Delph, Toshun, Bolasie, Klaassan the list goes on.
 
Any manager after Ancelotti was going to be seen as a downgrade and disliked by a portion of the fanbase.

All that changes with Benitez is he's liked by even less of the fanbase.

It's a shot to nothing. We were screwed regardless. What we've done is go for the 'name' manager to preserve the little prestige the job has as a club with 'ambition' with the alleged new stadium happening.

Benitez in all likelihood won't last 12 to 18 months tops. So be it. It would have been the same barring a miracle with any manager. If he has the guts to take the job on with the overwhelming issues it has, good luck to him. I'll back him as far as I can.

But yes, I think we're screwed regardless.

In a weird way he might be the harsh medicine this club needs. For years we’ve been saying the club needs to put aside the sentiment that’s has seen players staying too long etc. The last thing we needed was another Martinez type coming in telling the fans what they wanted to here and saying how phenomenal a captain Coleman was and how Tom Davies is our future.

Benitez knows that one step out of line and he’ll lose the fans and his job. Against this backdrop he’s not going to let anything get in his way of doing what he wants. I hope he takes an absolute wrecking ball to the place for a few seasons. If he leaves us with an ok premier league squad without the clowns that have ruined the last few seasons of watching Everton for us then I’d probably be grateful of a decent job done.

There may well be a perfect Everton manager out there, the next Kendall waiting to take us over. Would I want him to have Keane Coleman Davies Siggurdson Gomes though? Not in a million years. Let Benitez do a horrible job for a few seasons and then we go from there. He can hate us and we can hate him but if we come out the other end of it in a better place then so what because honestly nothing can be worse than watching what we’ve seen over the last five years or so where a team like Rotherham can waltz up to Goodison and have us on the back foot with ease, where Norwiches and Bournemouths can dismantle us at Goodison, where we can’t play anything other than sitting deep with the whole team because half our players can’t run pass or tackle.
 
People keep saying this on here, Moshiri wants us at the top he has pumped hundreds of millions in, he isn’t gonna settle for 17th.

He is settling for 17th. The appointment of Big sam confirmed that.

James 1:22
'But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."

Matthew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them"

Judge him what he actually does not what he says.
What he says at best is dubious, Fab four comment, questionable bid for Napoli CB's, 'superstar manager' Koeman.

But what is he actually doing to improve our position in the league? Very little meaningful. He might be trying. We expect NSNO not trying and effort.
 

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