New Everton Manager

[Doghead]

The bottom line is, Usmanov is funding the stadium or a majority of it.
He's the one who has been pushing for Benitez, If he's bad he'll just get sacked so meh.

and another season or two wasted with a huge divide between the fans and the board having been uneccesarilly created. i will never trust ANY of the current board again. any reps from the fans forum on this board ? its time for you to speak up. being consulted on the flavour of crisps avalible in not what the forum was created for.

 

[brieverton]

The thing that annoys me most, is the propaganda that existed around Allardyce is already starting from his people. That essentially mid table is fantastic. Expect to see a lot more of this, and history to be re-written that we were in dire straights. I mean we were actually in a tight spot under Allardyce, but Benitez has no such excuse. He will still drum it home though.

Over and above anything else it was that constant chipping away at reality that wound me up with Allardyce, and I sense we are going to get the same with Benitez.

If you want a test as well, just ask people how many more points should he get than 59. People will just not answer that question.

Last season was one of flux for all clubs. Results were unpredictable and unexpected in many instances, and for us also.

I think the club needs to reset although would accept that Benitez is a very strange appointment if a period of stability is the foremost aim.

A lot will be revealed in the age profile of new signings coming in. Last summer the plan was again to try to fast-forward our way to the top four, but it did not succeed despite looking at times that it might do.

We do not have the flexibility nor resources to spend our way to success. In the most optimistic scenario, all that Benitez can achieve as I see it is to put the nucleus of a squad in place over three years that puts us on the cusp of a sustainable challenge to the top four/six.

If that's not their intention, and it's more ambitious than that or less so even, and they are content to amble along as a boring, mid-table entity, then I do not understand this club at all.

Benitez can at best be a successful interim appointment. It does not mean that we can't hope for anything at all. We can very realistically take a top six position as West Ham have done, in any of the next three seasons, and progress in cups. The key issue for me is would that be built on something that can be sustained and improved upon, and perhaps left to a younger and dynamic manager to take forward in three years.

Competition is fierce but that also means the top sides taking points off each other to a greater degree leaving gaps in the league table to exploit, something Ancelotti failed to capitalize on.

The immediate objective has to be to gain parity with Leicester, Arsenal, Spurs, and Leeds. Perhaps West Ham. We can't have notions or delusions. Be around the top six as we were anyway.

The problem is that we need a three year appointment with progressive improvement in points totals and placings but are about to hire the most inherently unstable candidate in terms of likelihood to see out a contract.

 

[nevsonlymate]

Sure, but the ones against the appointment are not telling people to be against the appointment (generally anyway).

Most will be telling their concerns of what will happen, stuff based on things that have actually happened in the past so there is a pattern there.

Being told that we need to grow up and get on with it though? Nah not acceptable to me that.

From what I’ve read the ones against it are upping the anti in insults especially since yesterday , and the anti brigade on several post have said that people don’t seem to understand that we are definitely going to fail it’s happening on both sides of the coin unfortunately

 

[stretford blue]

I asked him the same thing, he wouldn't give me an answer. All he told me was 59 points was unrealistic, which given we literally just got that total with this exact squad of players seemed odd to me.

Surely any manager coming benitez or who ever one of there objectives set by there employer is to improve on 59 points and see where that gets us

 

[Sy-]

If Ferguson is at his side in the dugout you'll know that there's no drastic change at Everton.

The Everton Social Club, L4 is still the happening place for jack-the-ladism and general amateur hour attempts at running a football club.

I liked Dunc as a player (when he wasn't suspended) and seems a top bloke, but him being ever present around our dugout almost feels like the club is patronising him, and us to an extent.

 

[jceverton]

If Ferguson is at his side in the dugout you'll know that there's no drastic change at Everton.

The Everton Social Club, L4 is still the happening place for jack-the-ladism and general amateur hour attempts at running a football club.

We already know it, it’s written large in everything that Moshiri does. We are going nowhere until he goes and the club is owned by someone who knows what they are doing.

 

[JMT]

and another season or two wasted with a huge divide between the fans and the board having been uneccesarilly created. i will never trust ANY of the current board again. any reps from the fans forum on this board ? its time for you to speak up. being consulted on the flavour of crisps avalible in not what the forum was created for.

The board aren't overruling Usmanov mate.

 

[davek]

I liked Dunc as a player (when he wasn't suspended) and seems a top bloke, but him being ever present around our dugout almost feels like the club is patronising him, and us to an extent.

He wont mind being patronised for the salary he's on.

 

[windymiller]

Nah, sorry, "FSW" is a lazy xenophobic stereotype and people can hide that behind whatever semantics they like. The intent is crystal clear: the "othering" of a foreigner.

So I should just call him a fat prick instead, got it.

 

[orly]

Reading these comments that Moshiri wants to appoint Beneathus because club needs a shake up you literally couldn’t make this bollocks up! If you want to shake the club up you don’t keep Kenwright on the board, appoint DBB as CEO, appoint a DOF and don’t give him full authority to transform the coaching and playing/managerial set up.

Completely correct. You shake up the club by cleansing the Board, sacking DBB (sigh) and then booting out any coach who doesn't have the highest possible qualifications and has stagnated by being here too long (like Unsy).

You don't keep all of it as is then appoint Benitez. In fact the L4 Jobs for the Boys cabal will quickly undermine FSW from within. You'll have Unsy counterbriefing the manager to his willing stenographers at the Echo like when he organised his Koeman usurpation

 

[stretford blue]

I liked Dunc as a player (when he wasn't suspended) and seems a top bloke, but him being ever present around our dugout almost feels like the club is patronising him, and us to an extent.

Duncan needs to move on for his own credibility now would seem the ideal time but the club will do everything in there power to keep him especially with the appointment of benitez

 

[Sy-]

He wont mind being patronised for the salary he's on.

Exactly, I do wonder why he's not gone off to learn his current trade the hard way, on his own

 

[davek]

Duncan needs to move on for his own credibility now would seem the ideal time but the club will do everything in there power to keep him especially with the appointment of benitez

If he works with Benitez he'll have no credibility.

 

[Eggs]

Surely any manager coming benitez or who ever one of there objectives set by there employer is to improve on 59 points and see where that gets us

….for me, it doesn’t matter what his objective is. It doesn’t matter if he’s a success or not. Regardless if he gets 60 points or 40 points, he shouldn’t be our Manager after publicly belittling us.

 

[davek]

Exactly, I do wonder why he's not gone off to learn his current trade the hard way, on his own

...because he knows he'd likely fail and he's on a good screw here?