New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[davek]

Totally get why blues are despondent with it all and mainly the manager. Hardly an attractive watch right now or enjoyable experience, not to mention he is clearly not the future. However it’s about context right now. You have a certain pool of managers out of work, a certain pool of managers who would be interested in the job and a certain pool of managers who would be interested at the end of the season. What if the quality of manager desired is in a job and wouldn’t join until the summer? The likes of Moyes and co have made it clear they don’t want short term stints at the moment too. The initial belief was the level of manager desired was/is not available right now or it would have to be a short term appointment to get us to the end of the season, which is a road they ideally didn’t want to go down. So to back Dyche internally, get through the season unscathed and remaining a premier league club was the original thought process. Of course, things can change in football, if Everton go on and get thumped for a few games and drop into the relegation zone, alarm bells will be ringing I imagine. Dislike Dyche or not, that’s everyone’s prerogative, but sometimes it’s not as easy as sacking a manager mid season for various reasons. TFG have been in and around the club for a long time, yes the takeover concluded a few weeks back but they were around the club long before that, so they knew and know exactly what has been going on for a long time, not just a few weeks.

TFG would be best getting a transfer or two done this month that can get us comfortably across the line and their investment safe. It doesn't matter that Dyche will have no part to play in their future at the club.

The focus should be on players in not managers out.

 

[davek]

Literally rolling the dice with Dyche and hoping he can get the team to improve on his appalling record of 8 wins in 38 to get us through the season and remain in the PL.

All it takes is one of the teams below us to pull a few results out, as Ipswich did the other night v Chelsea and we are gone.

But hey, if there’s no other real options we have to go with what we have got. If the club is relegated it gets what it deserves.

FFS, prone to exaggeration much?

 

[Thomasc]

FFS, prone to exaggeration much?

So you didn’t know Ipswich beat Chelsea?

While you were cracking one off about us getting a draw against them, Ipswich managed to beat them.

Which part of that simple process are you failing to understand?

 

[blueboy72]

TFG would be best getting a transfer or two done this month that can get us comfortably across the line and their investment safe. It doesn't matter that Dyche will have no part to play in their future at the club.

The focus should be on players in not managers out.

But you’re then buying players who dyche wants, so you’re making the big Sam mistake over again. We can’t give dyche players that will be no use to a new manager next season.

 

[duncs pigeon]

how many times in the last year have we said, if he dont win next two hes out?

Every other game

 

[ForeverEverton]

Happy new year from TFG, and by the way we`re going to make you sit through the worst football to ever grace the PL for the rest of the season.

Apart from the club continuing to exist I don`t think TFG will be anything different to what has gone before....

Look at their decision making so far.... Dyche kept in place and will be backed in the transfer market but it is obvious to everyone, why they can`t see it you have to put down to very bad judgement (Which is worrying), that some time between now and the end of the season he will be sacked because we will get to the bottom 3 at some point. So they are going to back a failing manager with his type of players and when they make the change these players just signed will be utterly useless...

We need a progressive and forward thinking club, new manager to get his ideas across in Jan and buy players that will take us forward, yet we have more of the same thinking and mentality we have seen for the last 30 years, I know I keep saying it but TFG won`t be much different to the Kenwright and Moshiri days, instead of hiding behind no money they will hide behind PSR, this is us now for the foreseeable, bottom 10 club just existing.

 

[ForeverEverton]

Results will dictate. I’m sure there will be a few twitchy arses in that boardroom when we fall into the bottom three

Is this not the same type of reactionary ownership we`ve always had, what has changed?

TFG aren`t this ruthless and ambitious group alot of our fans think or portray them as. Eveything demonstrated shows exactly the opposite, they are probably asking themselves what Kenwright would do! He would sit on his hands and do nothing, it will all pass and don`t listen to the customers/peasants...

Feels exactly the same to me...

 

[JammyP]

We are a bit shafted still with PSR.

Be interesting to see how City come out of their PSR moment in the sun. Not optimistic. Perhaps we can go for Guardiola then.....

 

[Thomasc]

Happy new year from TFG, and by the way we`re going to make you sit through the worst football to ever grace the PL for the rest of the season.

Apart from the club continuing to exist I don`t think TFG will be anything different to what has gone before....

Look at their decision making so far.... Dyche kept in place and will be backed in the transfer market but it is obvious to everyone, why they can`t see it you have to put down to very bad judgement (Which is worrying), that some time between now and the end of the season he will be sacked because we will get to the bottom 3 at some point. So they are going to back a failing manager with his type of players and when they make the change these players just signed will be utterly useless...

We need a progressive and forward thinking club, new manager to get his ideas across in Jan and buy players that will take us forward, yet we have more of the same thinking and mentality we have seen for the last 30 years, I know I keep saying it but TFG won`t be much different to the Kenwright and Moshiri days, instead of hiding behind no money they will hide behind PSR, this is us now for the foreseeable, bottom 10 club just existing.

Mate they’ve been in 5 minutes for Christ sake.

Bobble just explained the manager situation and problems with it.

This post above is exactly why some Evertonians get ridiculed.

 

[SLAVEN BILIC]

Is this not the same type of reactionary ownership we`ve always had, what has changed?

TFG aren`t this ruthless and ambitious group alot of our fans think or portray them as. Eveything demonstrated shows exactly the opposite, they are probably asking themselves what Kenwright would do! He would sit on his hands and do nothing, it will all pass and don`t listen to the customers/peasants...

Feels exactly the same to me...

2 weeks vs 30 years, yeah exactly the same.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Totally get why blues are despondent with it all and mainly the manager. Hardly an attractive watch right now or enjoyable experience, not to mention he is clearly not the future. However it’s about context right now. You have a certain pool of managers out of work, a certain pool of managers who would be interested in the job and a certain pool of managers who would be interested at the end of the season. What if the quality of manager desired is in a job and wouldn’t join until the summer? The likes of Moyes and co have made it clear they don’t want short term stints at the moment too. The initial belief was the level of manager desired was/is not available right now or it would have to be a short term appointment to get us to the end of the season, which is a road they ideally didn’t want to go down. So to back Dyche internally, get through the season unscathed and remaining a premier league club was the original thought process. Of course, things can change in football, if Everton go on and get thumped for a few games and drop into the relegation zone, alarm bells will be ringing I imagine. Dislike Dyche or not, that’s everyone’s prerogative, but sometimes it’s not as easy as sacking a manager mid season for various reasons. TFG have been in and around the club for a long time, yes the takeover concluded a few weeks back but they were around the club long before that, so they knew and know exactly what has been going on for a long time, not just a few weeks.

Lots of clubs have been able to find the right manager to improve the team mid season, while in relegation trouble. It might not be easy or straightforward but I absolutely believe it's possible to find the right manager during a season.

I find it pretty disappointing that the new ownership have came in and haven't recognised the urgent need for a new manager. It's a gamble to back a manager with three wins all season and the worst scoring record over the last couple of years.

I think they will end up having to make a change down the line anyway and the longer we wait the more difficult it is for anyone coming in.

 

[grandjoeblue]

The early signs suggest these are just trying to maximise profit with the minimum amount of investment possible. Dyche has to be sacked and they have to spend in January. Even if it involves creative deals with higher percentages in future years.

They should have been fully aware the club needs major investment from day one.

 

[ForeverEverton]

Totally get why blues are despondent with it all and mainly the manager. Hardly an attractive watch right now or enjoyable experience, not to mention he is clearly not the future. However it’s about context right now. You have a certain pool of managers out of work, a certain pool of managers who would be interested in the job and a certain pool of managers who would be interested at the end of the season. What if the quality of manager desired is in a job and wouldn’t join until the summer? The likes of Moyes and co have made it clear they don’t want short term stints at the moment too. The initial belief was the level of manager desired was/is not available right now or it would have to be a short term appointment to get us to the end of the season, which is a road they ideally didn’t want to go down. So to back Dyche internally, get through the season unscathed and remaining a premier league club was the original thought process. Of course, things can change in football, if Everton go on and get thumped for a few games and drop into the relegation zone, alarm bells will be ringing I imagine. Dislike Dyche or not, that’s everyone’s prerogative, but sometimes it’s not as easy as sacking a manager mid season for various reasons. TFG have been in and around the club for a long time, yes the takeover concluded a few weeks back but they were around the club long before that, so they knew and know exactly what has been going on for a long time, not just a few weeks.

This is what I have been trying to tell everyone, its not like they signed the deal and had no prior knowledge to anything...

I understand the position re Dyche but this guy has some of the worst numbers in English football, barely dragging our arse across the line in 17th and being reactionary should we drop in to the bottom 3 is the exact type of reactionary management of the club that we had under Moshiri.

Absolutely nothing will change at this club, ambitious owners don`t work in that way and if we are to tough it out with Dyche till the end of the season then it better be a world class manager not appointing tripe like Potter, Carsley or Moyes because that really will be Moshiri levels of mismanagement!

 

[ForeverEverton]

Literally rolling the dice with Dyche and hoping he can get the team to improve on his appalling record of 8 wins in 38 to get us through the season and remain in the PL.

All it takes is one of the teams below us to pull a few results out, as Ipswich did the other night v Chelsea and we are gone.

But hey, if there’s no other real options we have to go with what we have got. If the club is relegated it gets what it deserves.

Again how many more posters are not getting what TFG are doing but believe it will be any different under TFG than Moshiri....

A fully engaged Moshiri would have this guy shot in the middle of last season, TFG just looking at £££ at the expense of our PL status.

 

[Clarky cat]

10.55 on the 1st January and the Friedkin group haven’t got 5 new players in, sacked the manager and legged big nose. Friedkins out!