chippy1722
Player Valuation: £35m
They both need to go together, Thelwell has shown he hasn’t got a clue.
bluenorthwarrior
Player Valuation: £8m
Which is ultimately the correct approach, but the inconvenience of genuine relegation danger is the problem.
If we were 6 points better off this would be a no brainer, but what to do given we are not?
then it’s on them also if we go down
Mr Happy
Player Valuation: £25m
Based on ?
Victus
Player Valuation: £35m
Literally nothing but his depression
whiteshadow
Player Valuation: £25m
You have the same loser mentality as our manager.
Maybe you should focus on how often we win instead of don’t lose because focusing on not losing is why he has us in a relegation fight.
Winnable games?
We couldn’t even beat Southampton under this loser manager and got lucky with set pieces vs Wolves.
We’ve won 15% of our games. 15%, yet you support this manager and claim I am clueless.
We all know you’ll go missing when we’re stuck in the drop zone and don’t look like winning because that’s the kind of deluded fool you are.
I can understand their reluctance to sack Dyche.
As evidenced by lack of protests at the match etc, fans generally have understood it too. Particularly when most of us could appreciate no change was being made until ownership was resolved.
I'm sure loads will disagree, but their analytics/insights will be telling them this team is, realistically, placed in the league where it's expected to be. It's a team that averaged 41 points for 3 seasons before this one. We had a great run from April that pulled the average up but what's that saying around form being temporary? There's a reason the bookies only had 3 teams more tipped to go down before the season, and that factored in a Leicester deduction. Whether we like to admit it or not, we're crap. I personally think this squad is the worst we've had in the Premier League.
I can't see evidence of the team downing tools. They'll have sounded out sentiment towards the manager, and media friendly journos (not a fan of those antics from the club, and I'd hoped they'd stop until TFG...) have since parroted comments of players liking the manager. Any potential immediate uplift then from a new manager, is significantly lessened.
Their choice, whether Mancini, Mourinho, Allegri, Sarri, Southgate, Carsley, or whoever - is evidently only willing to come in the summer. Who can blame them? We're still the same team that Bielsa legged because it never had the players he felt to keep us up and left us with Dyche.
All that said, I think they're potentially going to misjudge the impact of having half a squad out of contract or loan, and an interim manager going into a relegation scrap. A team that can't score is always going to be bang in trouble - it's small margins down there, and a team with so many players and manager not invested in next season doesn't bode well. Ask Leicester with Madison, Tielemans.
Repeat the first 19 games again over the next, and odds are we go down. 7 times in the last 10 we'd have gone down with that points total.
All I could expect from Dyche was to keep us up, and then, keep our heads above water until there's new ownership and the ability to recruit. He did that. When TFG come in, we were above the drop and had a window to address recruitment failings. They've got to do that, and pronto.
As evidenced by lack of protests at the match etc, fans generally have understood it too. Particularly when most of us could appreciate no change was being made until ownership was resolved.
I'm sure loads will disagree, but their analytics/insights will be telling them this team is, realistically, placed in the league where it's expected to be. It's a team that averaged 41 points for 3 seasons before this one. We had a great run from April that pulled the average up but what's that saying around form being temporary? There's a reason the bookies only had 3 teams more tipped to go down before the season, and that factored in a Leicester deduction. Whether we like to admit it or not, we're crap. I personally think this squad is the worst we've had in the Premier League.
I can't see evidence of the team downing tools. They'll have sounded out sentiment towards the manager, and media friendly journos (not a fan of those antics from the club, and I'd hoped they'd stop until TFG...) have since parroted comments of players liking the manager. Any potential immediate uplift then from a new manager, is significantly lessened.
Their choice, whether Mancini, Mourinho, Allegri, Sarri, Southgate, Carsley, or whoever - is evidently only willing to come in the summer. Who can blame them? We're still the same team that Bielsa legged because it never had the players he felt to keep us up and left us with Dyche.
All that said, I think they're potentially going to misjudge the impact of having half a squad out of contract or loan, and an interim manager going into a relegation scrap. A team that can't score is always going to be bang in trouble - it's small margins down there, and a team with so many players and manager not invested in next season doesn't bode well. Ask Leicester with Madison, Tielemans.
Repeat the first 19 games again over the next, and odds are we go down. 7 times in the last 10 we'd have gone down with that points total.
All I could expect from Dyche was to keep us up, and then, keep our heads above water until there's new ownership and the ability to recruit. He did that. When TFG come in, we were above the drop and had a window to address recruitment failings. They've got to do that, and pronto.
Drico
Player Valuation: £60m
NathDogg
Player Valuation: £50m
TFG should have binned thelwell and dyche as soon as the ink was drying on the takeover.
Its clear that Dyche and thelwell are not aligned simply from the O’Brien signing - there’s no point in Kev the Red bringing anyone in if Dyche won’t ever play them.
Are we actually going to waste this window by keeping them both in situ, while we squander more games & points?
Waiting and seeing how things go isn’t an option here - indecision will kill us.
Its clear that Dyche and thelwell are not aligned simply from the O’Brien signing - there’s no point in Kev the Red bringing anyone in if Dyche won’t ever play them.
Are we actually going to waste this window by keeping them both in situ, while we squander more games & points?
Waiting and seeing how things go isn’t an option here - indecision will kill us.
mccole
Player Valuation: £35m
Agreed
I don't see Dyche staying past January unless he wins Villa and Spurs but I only care about us getting the points on the board.
We need to get some positive movement to jumpstart this season.
Curtis
Player Valuation: £35m
From the sky sports article out today it seems that the writer believes its inevitable that dyche will be sacked I'm the immediate future but doesn't know the exact details, they're definitely going to sack dyche I'm assuming that the friedkins wouldn't to assess matters further before taking making drastic efforts but I think dyche's overwhelming failures will elicit action from them at this stage
Thetigerblue
Player Valuation: £6m
Everton: Sean Dyche's future being assessed by owners after defeat at Bournemouth
The Friedkin Group took over Everton 18 days ago and are now assessing the future of boss Sean Dyche; Everton one point above relegation zone after losing at Bournemouth on Saturday; Toffees currently on a run of one win in 11 and second-bottom for goals scored this term
If they’re only realising how bad things are because of Bournemouth, and started the process of deciding what to do next then they simply haven’t been doing their job.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
I don't think it was ever the case they would fire Dyche on Day 1. In the context of some credible draws over Christmas they probably felt it was ok to wait and watch.
I don't think they can wait any longer. Every statistic points up huge concern and it's gone from being unsure if sacking is worth the risk to realisation that inaction is a greater risk.
What's now being reported and "assessing' the situation is just a prelude to a statement that Dyche has left the club.
I don't think they can wait any longer. Every statistic points up huge concern and it's gone from being unsure if sacking is worth the risk to realisation that inaction is a greater risk.
What's now being reported and "assessing' the situation is just a prelude to a statement that Dyche has left the club.
NathDogg
Player Valuation: £50m
Spot on mate, considering how much they spunked on us, I’m very concerned about their due diligence in regards to the footballing side of the club/business.If this is true (if) then I’m now worried about TFG decision making. As others have pointed out, they’ve had months to come to a conclusion, to either stick or twist.Everton: Sean Dyche's future being assessed by owners after defeat at Bournemouth
The Friedkin Group took over Everton 18 days ago and are now assessing the future of boss Sean Dyche; Everton one point above relegation zone after losing at Bournemouth on Saturday; Toffees currently on a run of one win in 11 and second-bottom for goals scored this termwww.skysports.com
If they’re only realising how bad things are because of Bournemouth, and started the process of deciding what to do next then they simply haven’t been doing their job.
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