New Everton Stadium

[The Esk]

I'll bow to your greater knowledge there mate, as purchase subject to planning is not something I've ever been involved in commercially.

The title may well still remain with Peel but there would be a charge (similar to when a mortgage is placed on a property) which would stop any other change of ownership/title without the approval of Everton/a.n.other entity. This "charge" will appear on LR documentation.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

I stand by what I said back in August, a deal was completed for the purchase of Bramley Dock and surrounding lands (thought to be Nelson Dock plus part of Collingwood). That deal is obviously subject to planning consent.

'Our' interest in this land (especially if there's new land boundaries) would still be registered with and appear on the LR site as it protects our purchase as and when planning consent is given.

Do you think any financial transactions have actually taken place, from Everton (in the widest term to include BHH) to Peel?

 

[The Esk]

But there would have to be a formal piece of paper, somewhere, saying we were seeking planning permission?

I've posted a few times the amount of documentation that has to be produced to support such an application (citing Chelsea as an example). I would imagine that process is well underway in conjunction with the work Meis have been doing with us.

 

[Onwards Evertonians]

I doubt we're anywhere near submitting a formal planning application, as for a development of that scale I'd imagine the process is extremely detailed.

I reckon that'll take at least a year.

 

[The Esk]

Do you think any financial transactions have actually taken place, from Everton (in the widest term to include BHH) to Peel?

If I put myself in Peel's shoes for a moment, then almost certainly a deposit and/or funds placed in escrow will have occurred.

 

[orly]

I doubt we're anywhere near submitting a formal planning application, as for a development of that scale I'd imagine the process is extremely detailed.

Which is generally the point I'm trying to make here. It's detailed, complicated, expensive and potentially has massive implications to Everton, Peel and the City of Liverpool. Over £20m is supposed to have changed hands and yet, and yet, no major government registry, government office or media department has seen even a sniff from a club whose "majority shareholder" texts Sky during transfer windows and whose Chairman has essentially made his career from the theatrical.

 

[orly]

I've posted a few times the amount of documentation that has to be produced to support such an application (citing Chelsea as an example). I would imagine that process is well underway in conjunction with the work Meis have been doing with us.

But they've been doing that work with us long before Moshiri arrived. There's no game changer here is the larger point I am making.

 

[mightymoyes]

But they've been doing that work with us long before Moshiri arrived. There's no game changer here is the larger point I am making.

but he was talking with kenwright long before he actually purchased the shares

 

[The Esk]

But they've been doing that work with us long before Moshiri arrived. There's no game changer here is the larger point I am making.

The game changer is as follows (i) having the ambition to create a world class stadium in a prime location, and (ii) having the means to execute it.

Cast your mind back to the distain in which the Council treated Everton Football Club a year ago after the last AGM and Elstone's comments which showed both bodies completely poles apart, largely because the Council knew Everton had no means of funding WHP. Fast forward a few months and with the arrival of Moshiri, Joe Anderson's treatment of Everton turns around 180 degrees.

I think you'll find Meis have been working for Moshiri rather than Everton, way before he concluded his initial purchase of 49.9%. It is the arrival of Moshiri, his ability to fund, and the development work done by Meis which have been the game changers both with the Council and with Peel.

BTW in terms of supporting the point that Meis were working for Moshiri, I know other interested parties who were looking at acquiring Everton had engaged similar companies to do preparatory work.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

But they've been doing that work with us long before Moshiri arrived. There's no game changer here is the larger point I am making.

Come off it mate, under the previous regime we'd have not pursued a river side home as it didn't fit their 'model' which was basically find an 'enabler' said enabler being someone else picking up a large chunk of the tab!

That's all changed since Moshiri arrived and we'd not even be discussing the possibility of Bramley Moore otherwise.

I can take healthy scepticism but you're pushing the envelope there.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

Come off it mate, under the previous regime we'd have not pursued a river side home as it didn't fit their 'model' which was basically find an 'enabler' said enabler being someone else picking up a large chunk of the tab!

That's all changed since Moshiri arrived and we'd not even be discussing the possibility of Bramley Moore otherwise.

I can take healthy scepticism but you're pushing the envelope there.

Maybe today is not the right day to be pushing (well-filled) envelopes anywhere!

 

[ToffeeDoug]

If I put myself in Peel's shoes for a moment, then almost certainly a deposit and/or funds placed in escrow will have occurred.

I would certainly expect so as well.

As for the period of time between 18th August and the eventual public announcement by Everton, say at the end of October, what is being worked on and achieved in that time by various parties? An agreed stadium design, preparation for a planning submission, firming up project costings, initial discussions with interested construction companies etc.? Would Liverpool CC be doing anything on the quiet to support the process during this time?

 

[GwladysBlue]

Come off it mate, under the previous regime we'd have not pursued a river side home as it didn't fit their 'model' which was basically find an 'enabler' said enabler being someone else picking up a large chunk of the tab!

That's all changed since Moshiri arrived and we'd not even be discussing the possibility of Bramley Moore otherwise.

I can take healthy scepticism but you're pushing the envelope there.

We did pursue a river side home under the previous regime - they failed. (Btw, they're still here).

I think as Evertonians we are well within our rights to be sceptical.

After that shambles of a transfer window, in which we actually turned a profit, I'm doubtful we will pull this off either.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

We did pursue a river side home under the previous regime - they failed. (Btw, they're still here).

I think as Evertonians we are well within our rights to be sceptical.

After that shambles of a transfer window, in which we actually turned a profit, I'm doubtful we will pull this off either.

Sceptical yes, creating a false narrative - no.

 

[Toffeelover]

I've posted a few times the amount of documentation that has to be produced to support such an application (citing Chelsea as an example). I would imagine that process is well underway in conjunction with the work Meis have been doing with us.

There has to be some thing in the offing ESK, no smoke etc. But I do hope that the board are homing in the waterfront.

back a few years BK should have tapped up his friend former boss of BHS for the 50 mill needed for KD.