New Everton Stadium

Possibly, possibly not. Though the news yesterday that the bid is proposing to host long jump and triple jump outside the stadium means the platform itself can be narrower, which in turn means the upper tiers could be closer and steeper.

So...by building one end afterwards and having the track "sticking out" you can move the platform along horizontally, meaning it doesn't need to be as high vertically. And losing long jump and triple jump means it doesn't need to be as wide.

It of course is one way to deal with the problem, however why would we have a reduced capacity stadium for 2 seasons if there is no financial gain?

If the council were stumping up 80 million for us to mess around I'd understand. So unless they have us by our short and curlies regarding the guarantor thing i'm at a loss.
 
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It of course is one way to deal with the problem, however why would we have a reduced capacity stadium for 2 seasons if there is no financial gain?

If the council were stumping up 80 million for us to mess around I'd understand. So unless they have by our short and curlies regarding the guarantor thing i'm at a loss.

Well Joes letter said the cost of the track being lobbed in and out will be met by the CWG folk, and LCC have facilitated a very attractive commercial property funding model for institutional investors.

But its all very annoying!
 
I have done simple picture with a running track superimposed on Goodison. My conclusion...it doesn't fit! You're all welcome!


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I've made the point before that if you knocked down the Park End and Main Stand, you could fit a running track on the footprint of GP. There would still be a big enough capacity for athletics, particularly if you built a small temporary stand at the Park End which I think you could fit in, if it was tight to the road at the back. Would you mind doing that photo again with what I'm suggesting. I might be talking rubbish but I'm surprised this isn't being looked at. Thanks in advance
 
I've made the point before that if you knocked down the Park End and Main Stand, you could fit a running track on the footprint of GP. There would still be a big enough capacity for athletics, particularly if you built a small temporary stand at the Park End which I think you could fit in, if it was tight to the road at the back. Would you mind doing that photo again with what I'm suggesting. I might be talking rubbish but I'm surprised this isn't being looked at. Thanks in advance
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Thanks, Wizard. It's a tight fit but it could be done. What's more, you wouldn't have to rip the track up afterwards I'd you didn't want to. Might be worth considering and it would be a nice legacy for Goodison. You could put a football pitch in the middle and the reserves etc could play there. Maybe even the first team for friendlies etc just for the nostalgic value of it.
 
Nice work, but if you look at the length of the pitch in your image its not to scale. The scale on those aerial view websites are often not the most accurate.
Good point. I hadn't actually realised that. I got the two images off Google Maps and went to the same scale but I guess it's difficult to get the exact same distance on all the shots
 
Since the "Open Letter" thread is being used to vent about the running track, I want to know thoughts on where the player entrance should be.

Middle or from a Corner? I always thought United's entrance was lame, but thinking from a purely atmospheric viewpoint, the longer the walk, the more intense it will be to visitors.

TBH, the rate were going, we could probably factor in a lap of the running track...
 

Since the "Open Letter" thread is being used to vent about the running track, I want to know thoughts on where the player entrance should be.

Middle or from a Corner? I always thought United's entrance was lame, but thinking from a purely atmospheric viewpoint, the longer the walk, the more intense it will be to visitors.

TBH, the rate were going, we could probably factor in a lap of the running track...
Halfway line.
 
Since the "Open Letter" thread is being used to vent about the running track, I want to know thoughts on where the player entrance should be.

Middle or from a Corner? I always thought United's entrance was lame, but thinking from a purely atmospheric viewpoint, the longer the walk, the more intense it will be to visitors.

TBH, the rate were going, we could probably factor in a lap of the running track...
Roof, get them coming down on an abseil rope or parachute
 
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Here’s what the first new building planned for the Central Docks of Liverpool Waters could look like.

Developer Peel’s £5.5bn Liverpool Waters scheme would see the docklands from the Pier Head to Bramley Moore Dock redeveloped with homes, offices and tower blocks.

Several developments have been built or are being planned at Princes Dock. To the north, Everton’s new stadium at Bramley Moore Dock would be at the heart of Liverpool’s 2022 Commonwealth Games bid – and an athletes’ village would be built next door.

Fewer detailed plans have yet been revealed for the Central Docks site – though CGIs have shown that Peel wants it to be full of tall towers, with a cultural centre on the waterfront.


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Plans for new apartments blocks at Central Docks in Liverpool Waters (Pic: Blok Architecture for Peel)

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Plans for new apartments blocks at Central Docks in Liverpool Waters (Pic: Blok Architecture for Peel)
What's actually happening at Liverpool Waters?
But now formal plans have been submitted to Liverpool Council for a new block, reaching up to 14 storeys tall, including 237 apartments for sale.

The building, which would stretch from eight to 14 floors high, would also include office space and leisure facilities.

It would sit next to the new Northern Link Road into Liverpool Waters and next to the proposed “House of Arts, Music and Culture” on the waterfront.

The new building would be clad in red brick. In its application, Blok Architecture says: “The proposal uses red brick to ground the building into its context, utilising steel, and glazing elements to create with it a rhythm and scale that befits its context and establishes an urban mass adjacent to the neighbouring warehouses.”

The Central Docks area is largely empty and has been used for events including Liverpool Sound City music festival.


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Cultural centre planned for Liverpool waterfront alongside stadium
World Heritage watchdogs at UNESCO have been particularly concerned about the effect any development at the Central Docks could have on the “Outstanding Universal Value” (OUV) of the World Heritage Site. UNESCO’s fears over Liverpool Waters saw Liverpool added to the list of World Heritage Sites in danger.

A Heritage Impact Assessment carried out by Blok Architecture included with this planning application said: “In overall terms, the proposals do not impact on OUV, and preserve the authenticity and integrity of the property.”

The north end of Liverpool Waters would have been among the last sites to be developed. But a successful Commonwealth Games bid could speed up the development of that area.

The proposed Bramley Moore Dock stadium would in itself spark more development in and around the north docks.

But if Liverpool won the Games, the council would build an athletes’ village to the south at Nelson Dock. Those flats could then be sold on after the games, creating another residential district.
 

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